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[–] viking@infosec.pub 29 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I don't understand why anyone needs a software to achieve this in the first place? I've hooked the camera's HDMI out to some cheap random USB-C HDMI capture card, and use OBS to record the stream. Easy, uncompressed, no restrictions to whichever settings their software lets you access.

[–] blargbluuk 9 points 1 month ago

You're kinda explaining Canon's logic here though - they want you to pay for "convenience".

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

So the $5 is the idiot tax then - for people that can't figure it out themselves. Scummy as fuck when they could just out a youtube tutorial instead.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Can you use that in videocalling apps?

[–] viking@infosec.pub 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I guess it depends on the app, but I just checked and both Skype and Teams show me the capture card as input source, and the preview picture looks fine. So I'm pretty sure it works in an actual call, though I haven't tried it yet.

Both apps heavily compress the video signal though, even if you set the quality to 1080p, so I doubt it makes a huge difference compared to a regular webcam.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The advantage of a camera is the lens, not the resolution

[–] viking@infosec.pub 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For a video call, I'm not sure that really matters a whole lot, but I guess that depends on the use case.

[–] gazter@aussie.zone 1 points 1 month ago

It's easier to market based on hard numbers like resolution, so people are used to big res number = more better, but if that high res sensor is capturing a crap image, you're going to get a crap image. Garbage in, garbage out.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There is a vitrual cam for OBS that spoofs the OBS output to a webcam you can use in zoom/teams/etc

I used a lot during covid.

https://obsproject.com/forum/resources/obs-virtualcam.949/

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

a software

That word doesn't work like that.

[–] gazter@aussie.zone 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's essentially the same thing, but instead of paying for software, you're using more complicated free software, and paying for the hardware.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The hardware cost me less than 5 bucks.

[–] gazter@aussie.zone 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's gotta be pretty jank. If I'm trying to connect a pro-sumer camera like in the article, I'd want the connection to be quality. Pro-sumer capture cards start at around $300.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 1 points 1 month ago

I have a high end Canon myself, and the card does an excellent job. I bought it while living in China though, tech there costs a fraction of what you pay in the US.

[–] Donnywholovedbowling@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Copying my comment from another thread on the topic

Probably because the software team is under a different cost center than the hardware/camera team, and they weren't generating revenue. So the idiot assholes at the top of the SW side said "we can monetize our webcam software" and a bunch of people agreed so they could look relevant and keep their jobs. Capitalism!

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This could be shortened to “Because it costs money to develop the software”

But that's not the point. Of course it costs money, but they're not content providing it for free. A lot of hardware companies provide additional apps and functionality for free to enhance the hardware and make it better, but Canon chose to monetize it

[–] sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You can apply the following answer to 95,99% of questions why a company is asking x price for y service/product:

Because enough people are paying it (because reason z)

[–] lurklurk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Ideally there should be a requirement for camera manufacturers to interoperate, so they couldn't limit who builds third party software or lenses etc. Proper cameras are probably too niche nowadays for that to happen though

Canon is especially bad about these things though, buy Sony instead

[–] mindbleach 1 points 1 month ago

Gavin Free once did this with a Phantom Flex4K. Took him forty minutes bodge together. Surprisingly, a $150,000 slow-motion video camera does not offer generic webcam drivers, out-of-the-box.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

And what was Canon's response?

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago