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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/24330389

Known as Xiaohongshu in China, RedNote is a social media platform that includes images, short-form videos, community building tools, shopping and more. It is not a one-to-one TikTok clone, and it is not owned by ByteDance. It is owned by Shanghai-based Xingyin Information Technology.

American TikTokers who fear losing the platform have suggested their followers join them in downloading RedNote to send a message to the U.S. government, as well as the social media company Meta, which stands to gain new users of its TikTok-like product, Reels, if the ban goes into effect. Meta reportedly used a Republican lobbying firm to spread ill will toward TikTok in 2022.

On Monday, RedNote was the top free-to-download app on the Apple App Store, followed by TikTok’s sister app Lemon8.

On TikTok, some videos of people joking about saying goodbye to their “Chinese spy” (some in Mandarin) have racked up millions of views and likes. The memes are part of a deeper resentment some users feel toward the U.S. government for moving to ban TikTok in the name of security and safety even though some lawmakers use it themselves, as well as toward the continued politicization of other social media companies, like X and Meta.

“I’m going to download it on my phone. I’m going to let it track other apps. I’m going to give it permission to see my location and all of my contacts and then I’m just going to let it sit there,” a TikTok user posted. “I’m going to let it sit there as a little window through which my personal Chinese spy can see everything that I’m doing.”

“Our government, I’m convinced, loves and thrives seeing us unhappy and seeing us struggle and seeing us poor,” another TikToker said. “Seeing that RedNote, another Chinese app, which is owned and hosted in China, is the No. 1 app in the App Store today is just beautiful.”

Experts noted that the law gives the executive branch the authority to deem a country a “foreign adversary” and that in doing so it can choose to ban an app that comes from that country. In this case, China is already deemed a “foreign adversary” in the TikTok ban, and therefore the executive branch could theoretically decide that other apps from China must be banned.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Red note must be real famous now, if Nbc news is covering it. It's almost like they banned Tiktok for nothing because now there is another one emerging. They should just not ban Tiktok. Rednote might even be worse than Tiktok for those concerned because the revolt will just grow if the government blocks something deemed a national security threat.

In the u.s it's not illegal to use a platform just because the government doesn't like the country. Because you have free speech, right? Their are certain limits of what you can post and view but the u.s has never banned a website in this direct type of approach before Tiktok. and I just think websites getting banned in the u.s will continue to be rare thing. Piracy sites going bankrupt from copyright infringement cases is a completely different thing then an outright ban.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The national security threat in question is americans accessing Chinese content and figuring out the commies have everything they thought voting Trump would give them.

They didn't even believe the CCP propaganda there and we're just coming in being like "yeah it's actually worse than that". At this point it's worth it for them to just... let it be because we're giving them better than their own propaganda.

The "threat" is americans daring going a bit more left than even the democrats. It's not about China, it's about controlling and owning social media to control the narrative.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

This sounds really tankie doodle dandy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 53 minutes ago* (last edited 48 minutes ago)

I'm witnessing it firsthand, conservatives with a long history of being conservative on TikTok, spending a couple hours talking to chinese citizens and coming back completely shocked they have eggs for the equivalent of less than a dollar here, and massive family sized grocery hauls for like 50 bucks. People that thought their entire life chinese people work 80 hours week in dirty factories and basically slave labour, and they get on there and see average office workers ordering and showing their DoorDash equivalent like it's the price of a coffee.

You don't have to be a tankie to see why the government is worried. At minimum hundreds of thousands of americans are seeing chinese people living in (or appear to be living in) much better conditions than they do, and it's making a lot of them rethink their life especially gen-z. That's a huge threat to the US stability whether it's clever chinese propaganda or not, or even whether you think it's a good thing or not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

What's the big deal? Just find something else to ruin your life.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Oh, knock off the smug elitist attitude. You're on social media too.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

There will always be alternatives. And honestly I don't blame them for going to an even more Chinese app. Your data is going to get taken and used against you anyway so you might as well give it to China and fuck over the US companies that are directly fucking you over.

I'm not saying it's the right mindset, I'm just saying I get it.