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When called out on it, they then doubled down on this dogshit take: https://archive.ph/quYyb

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 41 minutes ago (1 children)

Dems had a choice between the progressive wing (Bernie Sanders, etc), versus corporate Dems, but in the end money won and constituents lost.

Not wrong there…

[–] [email protected] 8 points 19 minutes ago

Yeah, that's true. But going on to say 'therefore support Trump' is ... not good.

I think it's unwise for Proton to try to support any political party. Agreeing or disagreeing with decisions and policies is fair and good; but to say "this is the party who supports the little guy" is a bullshit and unnecessarily divisive.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 43 minutes ago (1 children)

CEOs having a "who can suck off Trump best" contest?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 34 minutes ago

This is how it's feeling like, last few weeks. I'll somehow need to justify keeping my proton plan

[–] AlecSadler 7 points 51 minutes ago

This is unbelievably disappointing. Just canceled my annual membership (which was set to renew in ~2 weeks).

Looks like I'll be moving to Tuta tomorrow.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 minutes ago

Why are there no reports and outrage over the pick of Gail Slater? Doesn't she fit the standard outrage mold? She does seem to be pretty vehemetly anti-big tech. She has driven monopoly cases against VISA, Google and Apple. Surprisingly sober choice as assistant attorney general.

If this is suppose to be "Full MAGA", then i don't understand where you draw lines.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 59 minutes ago

Fuck Proton than.

What's a good alternative I can use?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 hours ago

It seems the guy keeps digging a bigger and bigger hole for himself. Sigh...

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 hours ago

By the “little guys” he means himself.

By himself he means corporate CEOs.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 hours ago

I migrated my custom domains to Tuta and canceled my Proton subscription as a result of all of this.

And Proton had fucking better give me a prorated refund.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I checked archive and it wasn’t saved to the wayback machine so I added it in case proton deletes it. https://web.archive.org/web/20250115163936/https://proton.me/blog/trump-control-nsa-privacy

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 hours ago

That’s a nice one to rub Andy’s nose in. I’ll put that one in my cancellation note.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 50 minutes ago (2 children)

Wait... I thought Proton was owned by Valve.

Oh well, anyone know a cheap yet reliable VPN I can switch too?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 35 minutes ago

The Proton compatibility layer is a valve thing. Proton Mail/VPN/Pass and so on are from the Proton company.

A bit of an unfortunate name.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 33 minutes ago* (last edited 31 minutes ago)

Azire is great, they just dont have port forwarding. For that reason I use airvpn witch is okay too.

[edit] whoa, just noticed they got bought by malwarebytes. There goes that recommendation.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 hours ago

Fucking pathetic

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Who gives a shit? Proton is one of the best companies when it comes to privacy, why should I care about the CEO's political views?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 minutes ago

Who gives a shit? Many people, obviously. And for many different reasons. Here are two simple reasons why I care:

  • The CEO stating support for Trump suggests that either their values align with Trump, or that they are bought / corrupted. Either way, I see that as a sign that Proton is likely to make moves that I disagree with. People's values guide their actions, and this CEO is showing values that I disagree with. So I can no longer trust their actions.
  • Even if the Proton products are perfect, if the CEO openly supports Trump then we get a 'Nazi bar' type effect. Whenever I share my proton email address with someone, it will signal to them that I frequent the Nazi bar. ... I don't want that association.
[–] [email protected] 1 points 42 minutes ago* (last edited 38 minutes ago)

A voice of reason coming from lemmy.blahaj.zone. Seems like my instance sanity meter has not been working properly.

That said, Tutanota is not a bad option and if people want to move there because of this, why the fuck not.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Wow. And I had just about now completed moving my addresses over, fucking hell

Mullvad then I guess?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago

One of my favourite things about using an email relay is how easy it was to change email addresses. Unfortunately I was changing to Proton. Fortunately I was using my own domain! Unfortunately I pre-paid 2 years.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Same! And there's not a good email alternative that's as popular

[–] NerdsGonnaNerd 1 points 56 minutes ago

I just switched to purelymail and I am so far pretty happy with it. Plus its way cheaper.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Tuta is decent. I have been using them for a long time every since proton tried gas-lighting everyone about javascript based browser interface being secure for e2ee.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

How did both him and and the rest of the board think this was a smart thing to stand by? Does he really think people interested in privacy also support Trump?

What a way to alienate your entire customer base

[–] [email protected] 3 points 40 minutes ago (1 children)

What a way to alienate your entire customer base

You really think the entire customer base cares about this?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 minutes ago

You're getting downvoted but I know a handful of privacy minded tech guys who would support Proton even more because of this. I also know quite a few people who share his perspective. And yeah propaganda is definitely in the mix, but maybe just maybe the Democrat party should own some of this themselves.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Little guys? Like Coca Cola?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 hours ago

I hope you all see thru Trump's Big Tech bullshit. It's not to reign them in to make America competitive - or whatever other horseshit he spews out of that asshole he calls a mouth. It's to get rid of the others so that he controls and censors the fuck out of the only avenue of social communication like his handlers.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

🤦 Can we get this in actual text or maybe a cool link to the actual content for those of us who need it for accessibility & the rest of us who don't like trying to read pixelated garbage? Screenshots of text are such a scourge. 😭

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

Jonah Aragon @[email protected] Hugely disappointing to see Andy Yen (Proton CEO) tout the Republican Party as the ones standing up for the little guys"

Andy Yen @andyyen Great pick by @realDonald Trump. 10 years ago, Republicans were the party of big business and Dems stood for the little guys, but today the tables have completely turned. People forget that the current antitrust actions against Big Tech were started under the first Trump admin.

Donald J, Trump GrealDonaldTrump I am pleased to nominate Gail Slater as Assistant Attorney General for the Antitrust Division at the Department of Justice. Big Tech has run wild for years, stifling competition in our most innovative sector and, as we all know, using its market power to crack down on the rights of so many Americans, as well as those of Little Tech! I was proud to fight these abuses in my First Term, and our Department of Justice's antitrust team will continue that work under Gail's leadership. Gail previously served at the FTC, in my National Economic Council and, most recently, advising Vice President-Elect JD Vance in his Senate office. Gail has also worked in the private sector, in Media at FOX, and in the Tech sector at Roku, In her new role, Gail will help ensure that our competition laws are enforced, both vigorously and FAIRLY, with clear rules that facilitate, rather than stifle, the ingenuity of our greatest companies. Congratulations Gail - Together, we will Make America Competitive Again!

[–] drascus 13 points 7 hours ago

Maybe he hit his head or has been replaced by bizarro Andy yen. In any case I can't believe he would do this to his own company. I started to give him the benefit of the doubt until he updated his statement saying that JD Vance cares about privacy and antitrust... I was like bro okay in done.

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