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Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new "king"

Update: position got backed up by an official Proton post on Mastodon, it's an official Proton statement now. https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy/113833073219145503

Update 2, plot-twist: they removed this response from Mastodon - seems they realize it exploded into their face!

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago

Mailbox.org

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

One thing I saw was lacking in the comments here are some alternatives (Some were named, more self-hosted options, which can be good for a person, but not always)...

RiseUp.net and Disroot.org both are ran by collectives, and both protect your privacy. RiseUp has a log of how they've done so, as well.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Pop goes the weasel

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Any good alternative to proton services? For mail I have tuta so far, but they cover only that part and the webmail UX in tuta is actually worse for the free tier.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

It's almost understandable to bend the knee in the hopes of avoiding the coming purges, but this goes well beyond just seeking corporate survival. Genuinely disgusting. It looks like the way forward for Proton will be lit by the bridges they're burning.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh damn. I was hoping proton had another good 20 years before some limp-dick ceo started with this shit.

I guess that makes tuta the company to beat?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Posteo as well

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Damn it. I just switched over from Google about a month ago. Worked on creating lots of aliases for my signs-in throughout the internet. I'm not leaving this easily, but now it's something that I'm thinking about and will bounce if things get worse.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He's just one of five board members of the Non-Profit that owns Proton AG. Not really a doomsday scenario.

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[–] SomeAmateur 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Large corporations like google have grown and thrived in Silicon Valley, supported by the politicians of California. So by extension they are partially responsible for enabling these companies to be the giants they are.

According to this article Google has funded 40 elected officials and spent $10.7 million in lobbying California's legislature and Governor this year alone.

If a president (even a shitty one) was considering putting a damper on companies like google, I would not be against that. We'll see if anything actually happens.

I'm not ditching Proton over one fucking tweet

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago

Let's see if he keeps Leena Khan if he's so anti trust

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Well shit, I was about to make the switch to Proton for email... glad I've been lazy about it, now. I'll figure something else out, mail-in-a-box looks like what I really want anyway

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