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I have an early 2000s house and they went wild with a) the sheer number of wall switches and b) the number of 3-way switches. I want to replace a good number of them while accepting my wife's requirement that they look and function as dumb paddle switches when necessary.

I've looked around and these seem to be the best at fitting all of my requirements but Mama Mia, the price ๐Ÿ˜ญ ๐Ÿ˜ญ ๐Ÿ˜ญ ๐Ÿ˜ญ

https://www.amazon.com/Inovelli-2-1-Smart-Switch-Dimmer/dp/B0BG329SH3

Anyone have some suggestions?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

GE Cync had some wall switches at the recent CES for around $25. I think they're Matter over Thread, which is my preferred tech. And I've had good luck with the CYNC Matter bulbs.

I expect I'll pick up a couple of those when they're out.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Help me out here. I happen to own a few cync bulbs as a carryover from my last home.. The app has gotten better. But I feel like they have been extremely finicky. I am trying them on the custom integration and they are still finicky and seems like they break protocol. How do you get them to work over matter on HA?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Not all CYNC bulbs are Matter. Do they have a QR code and an 11 digit code printed on them?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Nope. These things are 5ish years old, Cync "direct connect". I have a few Cync wifi bulbs and even 2 Bluetooth-mesh bulbs from wayyyy back

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Are you looking for scene support (double, triple, etc click events) or just being able to remotely control the light?

Worth noting several brands have cheaper "add-on" switches to use in 3-way scenarios. You would only need one smart switch and add-ons for the remaining switches.

I personally have a bunch of Enbrighten dimmers/switches and add-ons that work like dumb switches when disconnected from the hub. I too was concerned with the WAF (wife approval factor).

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Edit: Scene support is not a priority. I need remote control so I can integrate sensors or scenes set up in HA

These are immediately going on the top of the list. Also, I'm going to adopt WAF as a metric immediately. Thank you.

Quick questions about owning these. Do the paddles stay in the center? Or do they click into a position? Also, do you find the click of switching them as loud as non-smart switches?

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

The switches reset into a neutral position, so you can't tell if they're on or off except for the LED.

The dimmers don't make a noticeable sound but the switches make an slight audible click when turning on or off.

Worth noting mine are a few years old and they may have changed some things.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@[email protected] some cheap KASA switches don't work for you?

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I believe KASA need wifi to work. Or do they just work as dumb switches without a connection? I'm avoiding stuff which needs to communicate externally and would prefer a solution which won't add to my LAN

Edit: but that price. Daaaaaammmmn

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I'm pretty much all kasa with the innovelli for my fans.

Kasa require wifi for setup, but then have a local API for HA control. Just note that some features like motion detection aren't presented via API.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

They need Wi-Fi to work. However. Tp-link I think is switching over more and more to their Tapo sub brand. Which are supposed to have an integration with home assistant but I have yet to get work. All the Wi-Fi Casa switches however and Casa bulbs work like a treat without any complex configuration or setup. Just basically Plug and Play

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