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Paul I am begging you to actually write out a fucking timeline. Apparently woke started in the 80s in universities when the (white) civil rights protestors of the 70s got tenure in the 60s, as an inevitable and predictable extension of political correctness in the 90s. From the title you're obviously going to indulge the conservative fantasy that "wokeness" is a coherent thing rather than a political tool to dismiss calls for action to actually address blatant injustice. But if you're going to bullshit me, at least do it competently and have an internally consistent narrative that allows for the natural passage of time.
If you can't get through two short paragraphs without equating Stalinism and "social justice", you may be a cockwomble.
Man wrote nearly 5k words of pure unfiltered cap:
I'm not sure how someone can read all this without capping themselves. We could sneer this all fucking day.
I'm not reading that shit but for the masochists out there who like to read HN licking VC boots, here ya go
I've been a big fan of HN comments lately
As many writers (perhaps most eloquently George Orwell) have observed, women seem more attracted than men to the idea of being moral enforcers.
Ah, thanks Paul for validating my disdain for Orwell at least.
Considering popes, priests in general, politicians etc are usually male (historically) i have a feeling these quotes also exclude some groups from being moral enforcers.
It also neatly ignores social pressures, which provides good reasons for women being into certain types of 'moral enforcement'. Either because 'it is their duty to protect the kids' or the revolutionary idea that people are all people and should have equal rites, bodily autonomy, a political voice etc.
But nope: "me and the boys agree, this wokeness stuff is for girls".
This all makes me wonder, we know he has proofreaders who help him. Did he either get rid of all the people who disagree with him, or did they give up, as some people dont want understand the other side they just want to argue their forever cause they believe they are correct (so disagreement is a massive waste of time).
E:
Thanks to Sam Altman, Ben Miller, Daniel Gackle, Robin Hanson, Jessica Livingston, Greg Lukianoff, Harj Taggar, Garry Tan, and Tim Urban for reading drafts of this. [emph mine, the names that really jumped out to me]
Ah. Also 1 name which jumps out to me as prob a woman. Let me google her. Ah right. His wife, and co-founder.
George was writing his stories in the 40s, so at least has "product of his time" as an excuse.
Paul's just a flat out piece of shit to be writing this nearly 100 years later.
Fair, though in Orwell's case the misogyny is not accidental either, but an essential aspect of the mostly conservative ideology he adopted for 1984 (contempt for the working class, linguistic purism, just really being a little too enamoured with his perfect crystal of unending oppression etc).
linguistic purism
That must have been really subtle, all I remember is a concern specifically about how a sufficiently totalitarian regime may try to weaponize language as a further means of subjugation, not that language evolving is bad in principle.
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I've never heard of anyone describing 1984 that way, could you elaborate on your points or link to some analysis?
I read it in high school. Iirc, the main character in 1984 deeply hates a woman he works with and his violent fantasies about her are tied up in his desire to rebel against the regime. He later overcomes his desire to commit violence against her by having sex with her. His contempt for her fairly leapt off the page when I read it. I'm sure it's arguable what Orwell meant or intended.
In another scene, the middle-class protagonists watch a working-class woman hanging out washing and tell themselves that if there was any hope for freedom, it lay in "the proles" (members of the mass underclass, like that woman). But the way they look at her and talk about her is dehumanizing.
It's probably easier to just read 1984 yourself and make up your own mind. it's not a very long book.
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Read a rumor that zuck's marriage is falling apart, which scans.
A second divorced man is about to hit the tower.
i wonder where his roman empire fascination fits the pattern? also, who's next, maybe thiel?
I wish that men would go to therapy instead of going full fascist. Fuck this whole society. The West cannot fall sooner.
Does creating a cover of Get Low called "Z-Pain" for your wife, or commissioning the creation of a giant green statue for your wife strike you as the sorts of things someone in an unhealthy marriage would do? I think not!
my first thought on hearing the same was "if this is what he's like in public, imagine what it's like at home"
He has two sisters, and one of them wrote a book about the manosphere/redpill (from a non rw way) shit in 2018. So fam gatherings will be wild.
MDN has fucking ads now????
(also, image uploads are back, weird how pict-rs sometimes just shits the bed)
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a fucking “ads by Mozilla” banner at the top of mdn web docs advertising mongodb’s LLM of all fucking things
that tracks
it's one of their best places to start boiling the frog
mdn’s only job is to be better than w3schools but here comes Mozilla removing the value from another one of their own projects
also not pictured: there was a fucking side banner ad I didn’t feel like screenshotting too, of course
holy fuck I just realized the diabolical part of this horseshit:
I only know about the mdn ads cause my development browser doesn’t have an adblocker as a matter of practice (which I’m very quickly considering revising)
that, but also I meant specifically that it allows them to "build confidence" inside the company
"look, we've been running ads on mdn for weeks now, and no-one's complained! obvies we can put it on $xyz other places now too!" with a heavy subtext of "why are you being the one that's obstructing this?"
I possess no insider information whatsoever and I'll fairly confidently state that I think it's a fucking strategic choice. guess we get to wait 6~12mo to see how cassandra that statement is
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Computer understanders, click this link for some psychic damage! :D (aside: I tried to upload this as an image but it didn't work)
Ah, the Image Upload Protocol must have gone woke.
Coiners are terminally brain poisoned by financialization of everything. HTTP represented by three payment processors (and I don't even know if paying with Google or Apple pay involves HTTP but whatever).
Yet the money protocol is Bitcoin, apparently.
here you go
12 of the most valuable protocols on earth!
Counting like a chatbot.
Ah, so Google Search runs on UDP, interesting, that must be why it's so unreliable now.
HTTP: famous for doing Google pay, Apple Pay, PayPal, and nothing else. no other use has been found for http
(also, FTP! as indicated by these apps that famously don’t use or support it!)
Well obviously they can't be the money protocol, whatever that even means. Surely something like FIX would be the closest thing to an actual protocol for money, as opposed to a system.
The fact that DNS is "Domain Name Protocol" rather than the actual acronym (Domain Name System) is baffling and maddening.
my pants are an anti-embarrassment protocol
huh, pict-rs has been acting up a lot lately. I’m gonna give the whole node a quick reboot later and see if that fixes things
ow.
nasb, it warms my cold diamond heart to continue seeing instances of people going "oh, yeah, uh.... actually, no, fuck that shit. we'll do it ourselves" in response to broadcom's attempt to Raise Revenue Through Product Capture
Welp, time to start the thread with fresh Awful for everyone to regret:
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Thanks, I hate it.
Many of these threads are made in good faith and out of curiousity, but often times the comments become filled with hatred, ignorance, and trolling.
You don't say.
Really? Right in the front of the clean new thread?
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