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Community about running GNU/Linux on phones. Projects like Ubuntu Touch, Plasma Mobile, PostmarketOS, Mobian etc. Either on former Android phones or hardware like the PinePhone.

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[–] Codename_goose 30 points 2 weeks ago

And so people don’t have to scroll to find it, the person’s GitHub documentation: github

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Horrible to install or actually doable by mere mortals?

Horrible user experience or actually useable by mere mortals?

Seems pretty cool regardless of the answers to those questions!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Judging by the comments, this is an early development state. So, installation is probably not doable by mere mortals. User experience is probably like 70% there, as once it generally runs on a device, then the UI stuff works the same as elsewhere, but some rather important hardware features might not work yet, like phone calls or the camera, as those tend to need separate work for the specific hardware...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks @Codename_[email protected] for linking the GitHub project. Just at a cursory glance, am I reading correctly that you have to boot to PMOS from your computer each time you reboot your device? I don't have any real problems with that, just want to set my expectations.

[–] Dariusmiles2123 6 points 2 weeks ago

It sounds really interesting and great in term of e-waste reduction.

I can only imagine of difficult it has to be to install though😅

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Anyone that used pmOS before recommend this?

[–] tophneal 5 points 2 weeks ago

Pmos is a pretty solid os with great tui image building tools. I know I'll probably wait a bit on this until I try it on one, there's likely a lot that doesn't work yet

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, used on PinePhone and PinePhonePro, works well.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

iPhones already have the longest software update cycle on the market (though many manufacturers are finally catching up), this could make a 7 year phone become a 15 year phone nowadays since the annual hardware changes are kinda meaningless. That's ridiculous, in a good way. Of course it's been possible for the many Android devices that support PostmarketOS for quite a while, but then those are phones that had way less original support and much smaller market share individually, so if this catches on, it could be even more impactful than Postmarket on Android phones.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@boonhet @poVoq actually fairphones have the longest software+hardware cycle on the market.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Do you mean they sell phones with the oldest hardware in them?

Because they sure don't have the longest software support cycle, they only seem to be getting 4 major Android versions. The iPhone 6s and the original SE got what, 6 major iOS versions? Both OSes get annual major versions. And of course, in both cases you get security updates for a few years after the end of new major versions.

You also get lower end hardware with the Fairphone, so that might change your opinion on whether you'll still want to run it 15 years down the line.

There is plenty good about the Fairphone, like its' repairability and the fact that they do simply sell you parts, but otherwise, you don't get all that much bang for your back. Anything that's called "responsible" or "sustainable" is always going to cost more simply because you can't pay your employees more without your phones costing more

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Any clarification on processor limitation? Seems to stop at A11. I just happen to have an XS so A12. Wondering if it's a small thing or if the the architecture or security or both is so different it might never be possible.