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Full Caucus Set to Vote After Key Panel Picks Pelosi-Backed Dem Over AOC for Oversight Spot (www.commondreams.org)

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Rep. Ro Khanna said that "many" in the House Democratic caucus, including himself, will back Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in Tuesday's vote.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency 106 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Ngl I think AOC should straight up form a new party with Bernie or something like that, because the DNC is just gonna keep giving us the neoliberal shit sandwich until they’re subsumed by the Republican Party outright (other parties being outlawed, of course).

I know that end-state sounds hyperbolic, but at this point I wouldn’t be shocked if that’s how things eventually play out if this authoritarian slide continues.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Except she spent the last election cycle mocking third parties and saying you need to 'build coalitions' by working within the party

If this is what she got for her support of Israel and 'working within the party', then I think she might have been taken for a ride

[–] [email protected] 19 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Except she spent the last election cycle mocking third parties and saying you need to 'build coalitions' by working within the party

She is right. Divide and conquer is a super effective strategy, the left loves doing the divide part to itself then acts shocked when it gets conquered.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

When your left-wing coalition depends on kowtowing to capital to survive, it isn't left-wing anymore.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

So make yourself smaller, less relevant, less resources but ideologically pure. Not exactly a winning formula. You go to war with the army you've got, not the army you wish you had.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 23 hours ago (14 children)

Like how Bernie "worked with" the Dems by bending the knee to Hillary after the 2016 primary?

Yeah idk why the progressives think they can work with the right wing obstructionists that are the Democratic party.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not a bad idea. However, better would be a reforming and rebranding of the current DNC's image. It is the right time to begin setting the foundations though, make no mistake.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

However, better would be a reforming and rebranding of the current DNC's image.

And how would anyone go about that when the party leadership is fighting them at every turn?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

The only legal way would be to mimic the corporations that captured the DNC to begin with, basically bribes.

You'd have to create a super PAC that only funds left leaning democratic candidates, and one that would be willing to fund primaries against incumbents within the DNC.

The main problem is that parties only care about funding now, and there aren't exactly a bunch of leftist billionaires.

Citizens vs United basically ensured that any form of social economic reform is off the table for the foreseeable future. The political parties are bought and paid for, and will continue to funnel public spending into privatization until capitalism reaches terminal growth.

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[–] [email protected] 130 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Goddamn just not gonna improve shit even a little bit, huh Democrats?

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Democrats aiming to lose what little support the have left.

[–] winterayars 63 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They would prefer to lose everything rather than move Left even a single inch.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

And they have spent the last nine years proving that to everyone.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The thing is, when your horse is so high, you tend to overlook those down in the mud. But fear not! When that horse tips over, it’s a long and painful way down for those sitting so high up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

at least they’ll still have liz cheney

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Gotta maintain that sweet status quo at all costs.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And by status quo, we mean giving ground to the right year after year.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Political parties in general tend to be extremely hard-headed and reticent to change. It often takes 3 or more elections being lost in the wilderness to get some turnover going.

The US, with its insanely gerrymandered districts, seems especially well positioned to keep the unpopular gerontocracy going as long as possible.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It often takes 3 or more elections being lost in the wilderness to get some turnover going.

I don't think US democracy will survive two more Republican presidents.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The real test is the DNC chair election on 2/2/25.

It'll honestly determine who wins 2028 more than who the candidates are I believe.

If Ben Wikler gets it, I think he'll listen to voters and let a fair primary happen. If we get that, we'll win the general regardless. But the party immediately picking a favorite and mixing money together before the first primary vote is cast just turns off Dem voters.

We at least need the illusion that there's a fair process

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 day ago

"Pelosi's penchant for backroom sabotage was easy to cheer when she was pushing fellow octogenarian and likely loser Joe Biden out of the presidential race; it's harder to justify when an eminently qualified rising star—who, whether Pelosi likes it personally or not, is widely known to be a cornerstone of the party's future—pushes for a simple promotion," Sammon added.

God damn...

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Fuck the Democratic Party. We demand Progressive Party

[–] [email protected] 14 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Now is the perfect time to put together a new party. We have two years to make it viable. Assuming we still have elections.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 23 hours ago

[email protected] is a new community for this purpose. Unfortunate it’s on .world

[–] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago

Bring back the moose!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hopefully the old fuck just has a stroke tomorrow and keels over. That would be a fitting divine punishment for his hubris and desperate clinging to power. Those that refuse to let the next generation take the reins in their time deserve to sudden suffer sudden heart attacks. Peaceful retirement is for those who actually are willing to retire.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Where's a Death Note when the world needs one?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago

If I get my hands on one of those, I'm going to need a microfiche writer...

Also, be prepared for a thousand fold multiplying of deaths due to auto-erotic asphyxiation...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

We need so many more Luigi's to fix this country for the hand sitters.
-Me, a hand sitter

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

> I'm here to end insider politics!

> *plays insider politics*

> *gets fucked by insider politics*

Who could have seen this coming?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago

Imagine being such a hater that's up your own ass that you hate AOC.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It’s great when the people running the country on both sides refuse to learn anything from their mistakes.

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