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I'm not sure what fixed it because I tried multiple things yesterday, but it shutdown normally last night.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Attempting to kill init means that something tried to kill PID 1. That's... abnormal outside of a shutdown. But it can be normal during shutdown. So uhh... yeah: if it continues to be a problem then it needs to be reported and fixed by your distribution. What distribution are you using?

I see kernel panics at shutdown most often on Arch-based distros after updating system packages.

It sucks when it happens during shutdown but it's typically not going to cause other problems... except perhaps not automatically booting if you wanted to reboot instead of shutdown.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm using the XFCE edition of Linux Mint. The Kernel updated yesterday morning, could that have something to do with it?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A kernel update, if it's done right, shouldn't cause a panic. But not every distro does updates right.

If you know the old version and the new version then it might be useful to reach out to the Mint community and see if they're aware of issues like that.

https://linuxmint.com/getinvolved.php -> forums or chat might be fruitful to you

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I don't know what the previous version was but I'll still post about it to the forums. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

on Arch-based distros after updating system packages

So basically every shutdown lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see kernel panics at shutdown most often on Arch-based distros after updating system packages.

When I tried Arch, upgrading kernel would delete the kernel modules of the running kernel


somewhat unimpressive upgrade process.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

This dude kernel panics

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd reinstall libpcre, looks like it's gotten broken?

The kernel panic should be a direct result of shutdown (which I guess at this point is init/pid1) not finding its dependency and killing itself.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How would I reinstall it? I tried to look it up but I couldn't find anything.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

apt install --reinstall PKG_NAME

Is the command to reinstall a package, replace PKG_NAME with the name of the package you want to reinstall.

You should use apt instead of apt-get. It is newer, more user friendly and supposedly handles dependency resolution better.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I've already done that but thanks anyways.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

sudo apt-get install --reinstall

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=apt+reinstall+package&t=fpas&ia=qa&iax=qa

Not sure how you searched but I assume you didn't use or know apt? How do you install packages in the first place? Through GUI or Terminal?

EDIT: I assume you use the Linux Mint GUI package manager. I can't find how to do this too, would need to search more detailed but I don't have enough time for this now, need sleep, don't have enough sleep.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know about and have used apt, I install pretty much everything through the terminal. What I searched for was "how to reinstall libpcre" because I thought that it required a specific method or something due to the fact that it's a system library.

Anyways, it reinstalled it but I wont know if it fixed the issue until tonight.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Sometimes we think a little bit too complicated

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes this is a kernel panic which occurs when something goes terribly wrong inside the system. This could be anything from broken software to defective hardware. You should observe if this happens regurlarly.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok but is there anything notable from this error message, like anything specific that I should be checking out for?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First line of your picture is a hint for a software issue. I would just google that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I tried seaching it online but the only I could find (that I understood how to use it) was to run "sudo ldconfig" which didn't seem to day anything. I have no idea if that actually fixed the problem or not but if it didn't, do you have any other solutions?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ldconfig sets up links and caches for loading library code. That might be an issue if your install is broken between updates. You can use ldd to check if code can be looked up. ldd /usr/lib/x86-64-linux-gnu/libpcre2-8.so.0 should show no errors. Likewise for ldd /usr/sbin/init.

(Your paths may vary)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok, so Synaptic Package Manager states that it's installed in the exact location you say that it's supposed to be in but ldd states "No such file or directory". What's going on here?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did it help though? Same error or is the system shutting down fine now?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wont know until tonight.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What prevents you from shutting it down right now?!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's probably just paranoia but every laptop I've ever owned has had a problem pertaining to repeatedly turning them off and on again. This laptop is my mom's and I'm just using it because my old one stopped working and I really don't want to break this one too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You'll break things if you do more and more stuff suggested inside this thread without testing it. Maybe executing ldconfig was enough, but if you try more and more stuff you don't know what you did. Linux is very hard to break, especially when you didn't mess around with things like packages and libraries by yourself, there's mostly a way back. But if you're scared use the time and make a backup and a live USB stick with a Linux distro of your choice to rescue the system if something's terribly messed up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not concerned about Linux breaking, I'm concerned about the laptop itself. My last laptop stopped being able to boot into any OS or even enter the bios after I was repeatedly restarting it one day and my laptop before that has a problem where for some reason the screen gets dark spots if it's turned on more than once a day. I also have another laptop that has a failing GPU and another that for some reason can't read internal hard drives anymore. In the off chance that Linux does have problems, I am already prepared for that but as I said, I'm more concerned about the laptop. We've had it for over 5 years and we really can't afford a new one.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You could look at the package that's mentioned in the first line in Synaptic. The error message says it can't find a file. Fürst thing is do is check if that fike is actually there.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I might be totally wrong, but libpcre sounds like the regex library used by perl. Maybe his perl packages are broken?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Almost. It's a C library that mimics Perl's regular expression facilities. Fairly common dependency for any number of packages.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Apt says it's installed. Someone said something about reinstalling it but I couldn't find anything online about reinstalling.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your libpcre seems broken. Reinstall the package that contains this file.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I did that yesterday and it might have fixed it because I didn't have the issue but I did try multiple things yesterday, so I'm not sure.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You seem to have removed libpcre2 library. Try to reinstall it using your package manager.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Synaptic Package Manager states that there are several versions of libpcre2 installed, which one should I try to reinstall?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

In addition to the other things mentioned, check the health of your drive. This could be a symptom of corruption.