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[–] guiguinofake 1 points 18 hours ago

I don't care about efficiency it looks cool

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't care if anyone learns cursive or not, but I have to say it's a bit painful to watch people taking twice as long to laboriously print stuff out and TBH I've had just as much trouble deciphering some people's printing as I have someone's cursive.

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[–] explodicle 2 points 22 hours ago

I beat the system. I've made it halfway through life only knowing how to sign my name in cursive. It has been a glorious victory.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

That would include millennials also. This guy also looks more millennial age then genx.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Older Millennial here.

I had to learn cursive, memorize the times table, and know the capital of every god damn state. I had to remember the order of planets. I had to memorize polygon names up to 20 and roman numeral math.

There's so many things I learned that I don't use on a day to day. Things I can pull out of my brain but if you made me apply it, I'll struggle for a bit, and scribble the answer on a piece of paper.

The one time the skills came in handy was when I was crushing a escape room.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, broadly speaking there's no utility to knowing the planets or their order. There's no reason to know all the organs in the human body or the capital cities of all the states or the names of a hundred different dinosaurs or the events surrounding WW2.

But some of this stuff is just... fun to know. It gives you a knowledge base that lets you have an intelligent conversation with your peers and answers some broad existential questions about the world around you. And some of it is so foundational to your understanding of reality that - if you leave the teaching to the wrong people - you get some very ugly knock-on effects.

The guy who doesn't know what roman numerals are is much easier to sucker into a Facebook conspiracy theory when he starts seeing them show up in a conversation between Sovereign Citizens. Knowing times-tables is helpful for that base-line mental math that keeps you from getting scammed by a shady contractor or embarrassed when you try and calculate a tip at a restaurant. Knowing your planets at least blunts some of the absurd "Iranian Drone Mothership Harasses Innocent East Coast Dipshits" headlines CNN has been spewing.

And ffs, people still write things down. Cursive is a faster way to write than print. The whole reason people keep coming back to eInk and other free-hand computer tools stems from the fact that a pen remains mightier than a keyboard in a host of cases.

These are all still important educational touchstones, even if you're not going back to them every minute of every day.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But some of this stuff is just... fun to know.

except for the part were you go to computer science and are forced to study literature that is gonna be worth 1/3 of your final grade

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

There has always been extraneous data in the education system. Holdover from the early years that spawned all the currently studied philosophers maybe. Back then all anyone really needed was the four Rs of reading, ritin, and rithmatick.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Kinda makes me wonder why he didn't write that sign in cursive. Kind of a missed oppertunity to accually use it

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But then no one would be able to tell what it says

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

fair, but it would look nice i guess

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you do a lot of writing by hand, cursive is a lifesaver.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Only if you suck at cursive. Depending on how much effort I put in, both my cursive and print writing can look nice, but writing cursive causes mess stress over time. If I'm just jotting a quick note it doesn't matter and both look like ass, but if I'm taking notes for lecture or in a D&D campaign or something like that, where I'm writing a bunch over an hour or more, I see a huge drop off in quality after a bit of time when writing print.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My mother sucks at cursive then. I have to constantly call her when I do her shopping. If it was for personal notes, it wouldn't matter, but if you're communicating with other people, it's terrible.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Some people just have terrible hand writing, cursive or not

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Only if you suck at cursive.

I do, because despite all the work I put into it the letters all blur together. I forget a hump or two whem writing something like communication in cursive, and no amount of practice made a difference.

I can generally read poorly written cursive more easily than well done cusrive because I recognize which letters tend to be skewed. My father in laws lwriting was easier for me to read as his arthritis got worse!

But printed letters are always easier to read, which is why nobody uses cursive fonts when they type something up.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

It's the only thing that keeps my chronic tendinitis from making me unable to write altogether

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

I switched schools for high school after being in a British private school since the first grade. I was shocked at seeing anyone write in block print for the first time. Up until then I genuinely thought that cursive was the only way to hand-write and that block was reserved for little kids just learning to write.

EDIT: That school even had a calligraphy class that taught us how to write with a fountain pen. I have no idea what world they were preparing us for.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

I learned cursive to pro actively fuck with the people that didn't

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Imagine not using the faster, cooler way of writing

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I don't remember the last time I hat to write something on paper except for signatures

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Is it speaking into your phone? Thats what I see the youngins do

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

I don't have to imagine.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (9 children)

I have lovely cursive handwriting and I'm proud of it

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I guess it's a good thing he wrote it in print. Nobody would've been able to read it otherwise.

[–] candyman337 15 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Gen x? No, millennials were the last Gen to learn cursive

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Gen Z here, learned cursive in elementary

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't think one has to be the last to learn a thing in order to be able to realize how pointless learning it was.

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[–] ogmios 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The hell are you talking about? It's the perfect secret code to keep anything hidden from younger generations. It's like how manual transmission is the best car security system there is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Hah! I treat that as a nice side-effect. The primary reason I use cursive in my daily notes (nothing that I'd need another person to be able to read) is convenience and speed.

I do have a decent-looking print handwriting and I use that if shit needs to be legible to anyone else.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I do use cursive at work, but only to read wicked old documents. And lemme tell you 1800s court document cursive is not the same as what I was taught in school. Similar, but there are places it will trip you up.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Funny enough, there was an op-ed from a professor lamenting the fact that younger generations can't read cursives. He worried that the current generation will become future historians who may not be able to read them.

Might as well lament not being able to write and read cuneiforms or oghams by the masses is what I thought to myself. If cursive writing becomes obsolete and relic of history, so be it. Historians specialise reading ancient texts so the same expectations should be applied to future historians to specialise reading cursives, if they are so interested.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

That's somehow puzzling given that even if I know the cursive of my generation (which, even then differed by country, region, and even school), the cursive of the past is pretty much different from it.

My knowledge of cursive doesn't guarantee being able to read a Spanish church document, written in cursive, from the 1700's. Historians and related professionals train on how to read these kinds of cursive as needed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Right, it's not like someone who becomes a historian can't easily learn how to read cursive. It's not exactly rocket science.

[–] VanillerGoriller 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm older gen z, we learned cursive in the first few years of school but then it was unceremoniously dropped from the curriculum. So I can write really shitty cursive but not read it unless it's very neat and "standard" style.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Signing mortgages....so ueah, absolutely nothing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you actually think it matters what is written? All they want is proof that you signed, draw a penis for all they care.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I have a friend who literally does draw a penis on everything she signs. As far as I know, nobody cares enough to challenge her about it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I asked a customer when I worked retail about his stick figure surfing a wave signature once, not as a challenge or anything, and he showed me that it was the same on his driver's license. As long as you can see that you did it and not someone trying to forge it, it doesn't matter.

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