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I’ve known a few in the U.S., and even worked at one. Maybe people won’t become billionaires doing this, but why wait for a complete overhaul of society to implement more of what are good ideas.

I’d also like to see more childcare co-ops, or community shared pre-k schools. Wheres the movement to build communities and pool resources around these business models in the US? In short, co-ops are the closest socialist/communist business model that’s actually implemented in the U.S., so why are more leftists not doing this?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We have different company styles here (Swiss, but Germany, Austria, France similiar).

From the name: there was this company i worked in, it had a pool of investment money with other companies together. Another one, that makes accounting & finances, projects, with companies under their wing.

Is it something like that?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why do you like chocolate?

If it's what you want to see, then you should go do that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Great point, I’ll take that into consideration

[–] VanillerGoriller 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It relies on everyone involved not falling out with each other / losing interest / selling out down the line

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Idk, people are doing it already. Seems like this isn’t really a good reason.

[–] VanillerGoriller 2 points 1 week ago

Personally I wouldn't risk it. Been burned too many times and I also don't trust myself to hold up my end of such an agreement. Never can know what the future holds.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Idk, people are doing it already. Seems like this isn’t really a good reason.

You seem to be wondering why people aren't starting an "easy" coop. Have you ever owned and operated a business of any sort? Why not try it yourself instead of speculating how easy it is for people to start and run a cooperative business?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Companies don't do profit-sharing because they have no pressure or incentive to do so. In other words, they can get away with not profit-sharing so they do.

Co-ops are community projects. They arise out a strong, educated and engaged community. This does not exist in the US at large. That's why about the only place with co-ops in the whole country is NYC.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Because it is a very risky thing to do. When it works out great but if it fails you are out not only your job but also the money you put into it. workers don't really gain much, they still end up with a ceo making money and decisions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For the same reasons you haven't done so yourself. Also if you're the owner you can still share profits or vote or whatever else you want.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why should an owner share profits equally if they’re responsible for most of the startup push?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Looks like you're answering your own question now. I wouldn't but you can if you want.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Okay fair, sometimes I can lose patience when I feel like I am up against some kind of religious thinking. A lot of good points have been raised in this thread, and I believe in the strength of different ideas coming together to serve a common good, goal for people.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

anyone who wants to build these things most likely also want to do it as an alternative to the state not as another cog in the machine.

why wait

indeed. @[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

First of all, most people have no understanding or conceptual of even what the hell you’re talking about. Second of all, setting up, co-ops, etc., is extraordinarily difficult, as is becoming part of one. Most people believe it isn’t worth the effort, regardless of the reality of it.

The government makes the entire concept of a co-op, extremely difficult to exist, mostly because the government favors capitalism and punishes anything that runs against it. And, most notably, if there is anything the government can do to stop helping poor people and or minorities, that is always the first to target. Because people in control of our government are extra extraordinarily shitty.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Many of these profits aren't liquid so they can't turn into money right away

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