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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/48415737

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago

"Rules-based international order" moment

[–] sun_is_ra 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

pro tip for future bloody dictators, be sure to leave the ICC before starting your genocide to stay in the clear

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Netanyahu isn't a dictator any more than any other Western bourgeois democratic leader. The genocide he and those around them carry out is very popular in Israel. It is a deeply racist society premised on the hatred and subjugation od the Palestinians from whom they steal land and resources and life.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Since he's elected under apartheid, he kinda is a dictator even if he has popular support among the people Israel allows to vote. The terminology isn't a good fit, but if everyone in so-called "Greater Israel" was allowed to vote their government would look very different.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Apartheid ethnostates could never be considered democratic, of course. Though if we think in terms of imperialism, this also indicts virtually every so-called democracy. France's control over several African countries, for example. They don't get to vote for their de facto "president" yet France controls their currency, debts, exports, etc. While not identical to apartheid, the idea of an ethnic supremacist culture ruling over people who had no explicit say in who rules is the status quo for the imperial core.

It's important to not think of Netanyahu as a singular force for evil as if he is somehow separate from "Israeli" society. His unpopularity since October 7 comes not from displeasure over genocide or any other violence done to Palestinians - when that ramps up, his ratings improve - but because the wider "Israeli" public actually wants more blood, more domination, to restore their sense of complete superiority and security.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

All good points.

Although another thing to consider is Netanyahu would probably have been removed from office for corruption charges if it weren't for the war, and he might decide to keep the war going indefinitely to stay in power. Very dictator-like

[–] sun_is_ra 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

if it is highly popular why is he so keen to silence all media including israeli media like haartz? https://www.axios.com/2024/11/25/israeli-government-votes-to-boycott-haaretz

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Israeli" media is constantly censored. Haartez is being newly targeted by censors because they didn't back down on publishing basic facts about "Israeli" forces firing on concertgoers on October 7. These are not unpopular moves. A supermajority of "Israelis", for example, believe media should be censored so as to not show Palestinians in a sympathetic light.

[–] sun_is_ra 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

May I ask how do you know how many Israelis support media censorship? Is there a poll data somewhere I could look at?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Note: does not work if you’re not white

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

It all depends if the person responsible for the gonocede is considered a friend or not, simple as that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Good news, Putin can travel to France now since Russia is not a signatory to the Rome statue either.