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Endless War

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

no shit, Trump would just give Ukraine to Russia, and then brag about it.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Trump is going to open up diplomacy they will end the war and come to an agreement. Unlike the current administration strategy of escalate escalate and escalate some more!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

open up diplomacy

In the same way that Neville Chamberlain did?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Poland was asking for it. Did you see the way she dresses?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

"open up diplomacy" is a funny way to say 'appease Russia and give away a sovereign nation". But hey, clearly giving away the Crimea region to Russia stopped all future invasions, and saved a lot of lives... or maybe, if Putin had been told no by the UN, it would have stopped this entire thing.

I'm against endless war... but you don't stop war by rolling over and showing a dictator your belly.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Open diplomacy saves lives there is nothing comical about it. Look up diplomacy and tell me if the word “appeasement” is in the definition cause its not stop making shit up! You are pro endless war.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Pro russia staying within its own fucking borders. Only russia is to blame. Letting them swallow up their neighbours one by one isn't the answer.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Just let WW3 start… as long as you don't have to fight right?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Russia is the one trying to start WW3, but what, any attempt to say "no, bad country" is being a warmonger?

The hope is always to prevent escalation, but you cant sit idly by while things spiral out of control. No one wants war, and it always comes at a cost of innocent lives. We need to focus on ways to prevent it... which means being willing to spray the dog with water and say "no, bad dog".

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How is this escalation truly playing out? Ukraine has already lost significant ground and continues to do so daily. The U.S. persists in escalating the situation, prompting Russia to retaliate with even greater force. At this stage, we are no longer serving Ukraine’s best interests—they have become a proxy in a larger geopolitical struggle. It’s heartbreaking to see the toll on the Ukrainian people. Perhaps it’s time to prioritize lives over land, even if it means conceding territory, to prevent further loss and suffering. At this pace, Russia may ultimately gain control over the entirety of Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Its so weird that you see the USA 'escalating the situation', not the ukranian people trying to defend themselves. Weird that, huh?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The Ukrainian people face an overwhelming challenge in defending against Russia, and it’s increasingly clear that their ability to withstand this aggression is limited. Do you truly believe that sending more Ukrainians to their deaths in a war they cannot win is preferable to pursuing peace? Such a stance seems misguided. From the safety and comfort of our homes, it's easy to advocate for continued fighting, especially as the holidays approach, but the human cost of this conflict cannot be ignored.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

i dont beleive its my choice, or the americans choice, but is instead the choice of Ukraine and the Ukranian people.

What IS our choice is whether we support them, or let them fight without support.

What makes you the right person to chose for an entire foreign nation?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Just let russia anex whoever they want right? As long as they don't anex your country?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That is likely to be the outcome if this war is allowed to persist.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No. Thar is the outcome if russia isn't stopped.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ukraine is currently unable to halt Russia's advances.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They would be if they had the support they needed. They have a will to defend their homes and land and loved ones from the invaders. They don't want to roll over to russias colonialism.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Should we allow Russia to take Ukraine, or should we explore avenues for peace and work towards ending this conflict? You advocate for continued fighting, but are you truly prepared to support Ukraine in its struggle, or are you content to remain passive while Ukrainians continue to suffer? A vindictive stance only serves to escalate the crisis and perpetuate further chaos.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

No we shouldn't allow russia to take over Ukraine. Hence the support from other nations. There was peace before russias colonial ambitions made them invade. Russia wants peace to re arm and re equip so they can do it again. And then they will slowly eat away at their neighbors, causing even more death and destruction. Ukraine will suffer unless russia goes back to it's pre 2012 borders. You want perpetual and further chaos, choose the route of appeasement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Diplomacy is essential and should always be the first, second, and third line of defense. However, diplomacy backed by a stance of 'turning the other cheek' in the face of invasion often encourages further aggression, rather than preventing it.

In the end, when a nation is invaded and forced to defend itself, suggesting that they should simply surrender and allow themselves to be conquered is not only impractical but also dangerously naive. That mindset, rather than leading to peace, often perpetuates conflict.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Russia may not wish to prolong the conflict, but each time the West challenges them, they feel compelled to respond, leading to the escalations we’re witnessing. Ukraine is undoubtedly defending itself; however, it’s important to acknowledge that without Western support—particularly from the United States—they likely would have been unable to sustain the war effort. For some in the U.S., this conflict appears to be both a financial opportunity and a strategic affront to Russia. Since it’s not American lives being lost, there seems to be little incentive to push for an end to the hostilities. This continuous cycle of escalation poses a significant risk of spiraling into a global conflict, potentially leading to World War III.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Russia may not wish to prolong the conflict, Russia may not wish to prolong the conflict, "I dont want to keep hitting you with a steel rod, but each time you try and roll over, I'm forced to hit you! this is all your fault"

This is just victim blaming, war-sympathizing, and Russia simping behavior. Russia started it, Russia continues it, and Russia could end it tomorrow at no loss of life. I don't know WHY you are pro-Russia, but you ARE revealing yourself to be pro-war, as long as its anyone but the USA.

If Ukriane gave up today, thousands of people would STILL die as Russia invades, sends people to camps, ect ect. But i guess you are OK with that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I am firmly in support of peace and stand with Ukraine in its defense against Russian aggression. If we allow Russia to continue its advances unchecked, it is likely they will eventually seize all of Ukraine. Given the current trajectory of the conflict, it seems increasingly improbable that Ukraine can secure a military victory on its own. From this perspective, one could argue that failing to act aligns more with Russia's interests, as they would ultimately take control of the entire country

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

"I don't want Russia to take over a country, so i want to tell a foreign nation to roll over and surrender so its taken over by Russia"

NOT a strong argument.