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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You all really think there were a significant amount of people who voted trump because Biden and Kamala also support genocide?

That's wild...

What happened is some people couldn't compromise their own morals to vote for either, and Republicans don't have morals so that compromise was easy for them.

You can get mad at them all you want, but this isn't the first time this has happened, look at virtually any presidential election in modern history a republican won, and it's because the Dems went to far right and left their base behind.

We've been doing it for decades, and when a moderate wins it's by the skin of their teeth with large amounts of the people voting for them openly saying they won't make a good president but the only other option is a Republican.

We know the current strategy doesn't work.

We know that even when it does, things just temporarily stop getting worse, they don't get substantially better.

So can someone please explain to me the logic of doubling down on moving to the right every election?

Why do you think it will magically start working?

Why not do what we did in 08 and run a young charismatic candidate with a progressive campaign and just fucking dominate an election again leading to the House/Senate alomg with gains in red state governments?

How many times does neo liberalism have to result in fascism before the party stops shoving it down our throats?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Wasn't that the point? They knew both sides would be pro Israel and sent a message that without more Palestinian support, the Dems wouldn't just get their vote.

It worked, the Dems have been nothing but shocked and aghast at the outcome. Now the pro- Palestine base are hoping the Dems turn against Israel for the 2026 election to win back their vote.

...the Dems won't, by the way. They might pay more lip service to it, but they'll never be anti-Israel.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Equating not voting for Harris with voting for Trump is ridiculous and propagandistic. It's straight up gaslighting.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (27 children)

Yeah Bud! Keep bravely patting yourself on the back for defending a losing campaign holding a losing position that is pro-genocide. Just keep punching left, I'm sure the fascists will call you one of the good ones

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Lay it off with blaming people who are mad at Democrats about Gaza for Trump. Honestly, it's tired, inaccurate, and wrong. Trump won the popular vote. The Dems ran a shitty campaign, they had no message, and failed to inspire 10 million of their previous voters.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (5 children)

20% of the population is functionally illiterate in any language, an no one could out simplify Trump's simplified language, 'I good, she bad'.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

People really don't know the extent they went to for this. image

These were plastered up everywhere. Always wondered how effective they would be.

Edit: Signs say "Kamala Crime/Trump Safety" and "Trump low prices/Kamala high prices", incase the image is down or text to speech.

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