Well, you'll see what happens with Trump in the White House. NATO as a collective defense organization is on the verge of failure. Europe has the obligation, if it wants to survive as an independent power, to replace it with its own army, it is an unavoidable imperative.
this post was submitted on 07 Nov 2024
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The traitor is going to hand Putin Ukraine on a golden platter. Fuck this world.
The easiest way is to co-opt NATO by ignoring and replacing the US as much as possible. Recreating all the NATO structures and deals with the UK and Canada is something that could be done in a fair weather environment, with a war on our doorstep that's not realistic.
I'm sorry but I think the UK and Canada should not be in that union. Being allies ok, being part of a military union not so much. The European Union must be a strong enough actor and to do so it must have its own aircraft carriers if you understand what I mean.
I live in Canada and in the event of US autocratic regime, we are in danger. I would like it if the European Union had our back against (say) incursions from former US border states, but I get that they would have their own problems to deal with.
Don't get me wrong, Canada, the UK and others are, and in my opinion should remain, close allies with 100% mutual defense. But for the European Union I would like a fully integrated common army, even more than the current NATO and that would not make sense without at least a partial political union, something that the EU already has and that neither Canada nor the UK want
That's a different matter though. The above comment was about co-opting NATO if the US lost interest in it.
That doesn't go against the EU working towards forming a joint military.
As long as NATO exists, the EU will never have a united army.
Tbh, I don't really see how? What about NATO prevents it?
And what about the countries of Europe that are in NATO (or have expressed a desire to join) but not the EU?
Maybe Trump could go to Russia and talk to putin?
I'll write him a check for this. One way. Hopefully they have a nice long conversation. 20 years to life.