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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (3 children)

Hey, I'll probably delete my account soon because I shilled so hard for this campaign and it feels so gross. I knew day one enthusiasm was going to sink the dems and pushed back against the apathy as hard as I could. I was pretty devastated when kamala took the stage at the DNC and gave her support for, "a strong military" and talked about her gun or what ever. After that was just going through the motions and convincing myself I wasn't crazy for not wanting trump to win this badly.

The way I see it now, and will remember as we go in the future the DNC offers nothing. That's not fair, they do a lot of good for state and local governments but at a federal level, they will never be able to effect real change. Maybe it's because the way the fed is setup or for what ever other reason. It's not that the leadership has failed, it's that they can't win. I've hopped to lots of different possible solutions for Americans over the years and I guess there is one way out. Until we see liberals migrate away from the cities and take root in the land we will never have a government that represents them. That's where the war will be fought. Until then, even if Trump doesn't crown himself king asshole it's the RNC's game the DNC just resets the board.

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[–] [email protected] 168 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

If the Republicans are going to call the Democrats communists and socialist regardless of how moderate a campaign Democrats run, Democrats might as well lean further left on economic policy. Appealing to the right does nothing because the right can appeal to the right better than the center-left can

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

None of that will work anymore. The far right owns the house, the senate, the government enforcement agencies, and the Supreme Court. We're nearing the end of the monopoly game and you don't get anything extra for landing on free parking. The restraints for any of the rich and powerful just got taken off.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

Pretty much this. The Business Plot succeeded, it just took another 100 years. Now they have their Mussolini-like strongman, and a fully captured legislative and judicial system, all without a March on Rome.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

This assumes the dems have any interest in actually improving the lives of Americans.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

Stop treating rural republicans, chuds, incels, and conservatives, as human beings. The problem is that too many democrats want to go back to the "good old days" of bipartisanship. Those days are long gone.

We have to treat any republican, no matter how "reasonable" as an enemy of democracy and the United States. It doesn't matter if they're family, friends, co-workers, etc. This is who they really are.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

2020:

2024:

1% less this time around.

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[–] [email protected] 137 points 17 hours ago (13 children)

Yup. Democratic leadership would rather trump win than run a left-facing campaign and candidate. What's the definition of insanity?

[–] [email protected] 81 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Democratic leadership has to call corporate donors before they can make any decisions

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

Same with Republicans. They follow the Koch funded Heritage Foundation script to the letter.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

100%

Here in deep-red Missouri the $15 minimum wage passed in a landslide, but for some reason, all Democrats wanted to talk about was tax cuts that no one thinks they'll actually pass anyway.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago

Democratic consultants. The problem.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

In part, yes, but it's a more complicated issue though. It's a death by thousand cuts.

There's also the whole doubling-down on the Israel-Palestine conflict, Twitter propping up the far-right everywhere it can, etc.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

This right here is why the Republicans won. All I see below me is finger pointing and blame tossing. Republicans have got their shit on lockdown. You guys can't even figure out who to blame.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

It's easy to look like they "got their shit on lockdown" when they're straight-up copying the fascist playbook.

The blame game isn't helpful, though. Divide and conquer is from that same fascist playbook. Blaming anyone except the Republican establishment serves only to diminish their primary role in this situation, and further divide us from each other. We have to stop attacking fellow victims and put that blame squarely where it belongs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

The plan is the same as it has been since the dawn of time: The obscenely rich pit the peasants against each other to maintain their wealth and power. That's it. That's what it's always been. The oligarchs have taken over every aspect of our government, including SCOTUS, and personally own most of our former prestigious trusted new sources. Now propaganda organs.

The United States of America as we knew it is over. Welcome to The Fourth Reich. Enjoy the next 2 months, or use them to plan an exit strategy.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

I can't believe the Dick Cheney fans forgot to vote

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Looked at the dem votes for the last few elections and it looked consistent except for biden. Who somehow got way more than normal.

2008 69 mil 2012 65 mil 2016 65 mil 2020 81 mil 2024 66 mil

[–] [email protected] 15 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Also the only white male in those years…

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago

I had the same thought....

[–] captain_aggravated 27 points 14 hours ago (7 children)

votes for Biden were "anything oh god anything but this."

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (6 children)

The Biden campaign offered something, notably student loan forgiveness, but both Clinton and Harris's campaigns relied on the dumbfuck Pied Piper strategy that they would offer nothing to the voters other than being not-Trump.

That's a dumb fucking strategy because there are fewer people that will vote Democrat as the lesser evil than will vote Republican just because Republican. They have to court people with policies they actually want.

And the absolute crazy thing is they tried this in 2016 and it failed, yet somehow had the balls to try again when it mattered more.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

And the absolute crazy thing is they tried this in 2016 and it failed, yet somehow had the balls to try again when it mattered more.

They could blame 2016 on Hillary, not on the "I'm not him" strategy. Go figure that a 20+ year campaign to paint a woman as the literal devil would in fact cause problems for her at the ballot box, right? Who would have guessed except for anyone with a functional frontal cortex?

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