this post was submitted on 24 Oct 2024
469 points (98.0% liked)

Technology

58833 readers
5438 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 23 points 52 minutes ago* (last edited 50 minutes ago) (2 children)

Save your sanity and do Settings -> Blocks -> Block instance -> lemmy.ml

Also perhaps block me if you strongly disagree with the above.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 31 minutes ago (2 children)

That instance's mods blocked me this morning lol.

The amount of people simping for Russia in that other thread is insane. Apparently calling Ukraine a country of Nazis is fine, but saying Russia is a dictatorship is not lmao.

If you see a tankie or pro Russia comment, 99% of the time it's a lemmy.ml poster

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 minutes ago

Can we see where someone is hosting a Lemmy (domain, insnace, thing?)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 minutes ago

Some of us are actually normal

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 hour ago

Linus in 2012: Nvidia fuck you

Linus in 2024: Russia fuck you

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 hour ago

Linus is from Finland. Finns barely tolerate Russians under usual circumstances. These are not usual circumstances.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 53 minutes ago

You have to be arguing in bad faith if you’re trying to say “citizens of nation shouldn’t be responsible for their nation”

The open source benefit is not that they can directly impact it, it’s that their government can’t

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 hour ago

I wouldn't want to have FSB agents maintaining my open source either.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 39 minutes ago) (1 children)

Yo this comment section is a dumpster fire 🔥

edit: Remember Russian propaganda's goal is to sabotage free discussion and conversation. They achieve this by e.g. shitting in a comment section. That might explain what's going on here. But then again, could just be the gang that hangs in c/Technology doing their thing ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 hour ago

Lots of pro-Russia bots in here pretending to be concerned about ~~their sudden inability to sneak backdoors into the kernel~~open source.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

You know. I don't like what the Russian leadership and military are doing. I feel like ultimately we're in the cold war era. But you know, at the height of the cold war, radio operators around the world still worked Russian stations.

Yes, there was a very clear policy, neither side talked about ANYTHING beyond their signal report and working conditions (information about radio, power output and aerial basically). At the height of the actual cold war, the individuals were not cancelled like this.

Sanction the leadership, sanction the money, and sanction the military. But the normal people that are subject to the propaganda? I don't understand the benefit in doing this. I also don't see how the sanctions effect an open source project..

Seems a bit weird. Maybe there's information we're not privy to, but on the face of it, just based on what we're seeing. Seems like a very very odd move.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

don’t understand the benefit in doing this.

FSB wants backdoor in kernel. FSB notices subsystem maintainer is Russian, lives in Chelyabinsk. Can close eyes to backdoor, can pretend to review. FSB in Moscow makes call to FSB in Chelyabinsk telling them to buy heavy wrench at hardware store.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 51 minutes ago

If that were true, surely they'd not trust ANY of their existing work, or at least any done since the Special War Operation. Wouldn't that make sense?

They've left the code, and removed the people arbitrarily. Seems a bit off to me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Same could be said for any intelligence service . it is better to focus on preventing and detecting these things through analysis and code reviews.

And they could just offer boatloads of cash to someone in another country to insert something so this doesn't really prevent anything it only isolates a certain subset of people.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

So if we can't completely 100% deal with a problem, we shouldn't even try? I mean, you're correct, but we can't solve all problems at once. If we deal with at least one, then we've made progress. Then we can try to deal with the next one.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I don't understand the benefit in doing this.

Security. Torvalds did this for security.

Is it really that hard to parse?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 50 minutes ago

And I'll say the same here as I did above. If it was for security, their code is tainted too. It's an arbitrary reaction that is not complete as a solution to anything.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

How is this keeping to open source philosophies in any way?

“No, you can’t work on this, you’re Russian.”

I don’t support the Russian Government or its actions in any way, but these devs are probably not part of it. They maintain drivers for fucking ASUS hardware.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Because there are both US and EU laws preventing code from countries deemed a threat. Torvalds is paid by the Ameircan Linux Foundation, which has to work under US law and he himself is an EU citizen. Also a lot of other developers are from those countries and if they do not comply, they could get into some pretty bad legal trouble.

So it pretty much boils down to kick out the Russians or kick out all US and EU citizens and well we see Linus choice.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

risc-v saw this coming a while ago and moved to Switzerland to avoid it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 52 minutes ago

Switzerland is being routinely strong-armed these days.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

It's not that hard of a choice either ofc, given one is essentially required.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›