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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 55 minutes ago) (3 children)

don’t understand the benefit in doing this.

FSB wants backdoor in kernel. FSB notices subsystem maintainer is Russian, lives in Chelyabinsk. Can close eyes to backdoor, can pretend to review. FSB in Moscow make call to FSB in Chelyabinsk telling to buy heavy wrench at hardware store.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I don't think this only happens now, governments like Russia, USA, China, Israel will likely always be making these attempts.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 hours ago

If that were true, surely they'd not trust ANY of their existing work, or at least any done since the Special War Operation. Wouldn't that make sense?

They've left the code, and removed the people arbitrarily. Seems a bit off to me.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Same could be said for any intelligence service . it is better to focus on preventing and detecting these things through analysis and code reviews.

And they could just offer boatloads of cash to someone in another country to insert something so this doesn't really prevent anything it only isolates a certain subset of people.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

So if we can't completely 100% deal with a problem, we shouldn't even try? I mean, you're correct, but we can't solve all problems at once. If we deal with at least one, then we've made progress. Then we can try to deal with the next one.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

No but this doesn't do anything to "deal" with the problem as anyone can built up trust like Jian tan showed. The argument that this makes us more secure is like saying closed source is more secure cause the hackers dont have access to the source.

We have evidence of the US messing with nist standards so by that same logic should we assume all us actors are bad ?

The solution is to verify the code maybe have multiple people from different locations have to review stuff. Build more checks into the process.

The whole point of it being open is that it can be reviewed. It shouldn't matter where the contributor is from as all code should be subjected to a rigorous review process.