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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 hours ago

Shame to see this shit from torvalds

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I'd really like to see the criteria for delisting people, though. As Russia is not the only one waging wars, there are worse countries out there. I guess it all boils down to Linus being from Finland.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 hours ago

Yeah the kernel might end up being forked if this shit keeps going. Sanctions affecting open source software like this was not something I expected...

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Man, I wish he'd leave the communication to someone else. He is so, so bad at it. And this isn't the first time

The way he attacks critics puts himself in a bad light. But much more importantly, I read this and am still unsure if he has administrative/legal reason, security reasons or political reasons...

If I'd work in Russian propaganda, I'd love this so much. Hope this will not cause disruption in the community.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 hours ago

the comments on the article started off pretty good but pretty quickly devolved into a cancerous combination of NAFO and Hasbara.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Banning Israeli contributers too?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

No, it's not like Israel is attacking its neighbors. It doesn't, does it?

[–] pastermil 19 points 12 hours ago

They would never!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 13 hours ago

ALL of them? Not at once. Usually.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

so are we okay with banning development time donated to foss because of nationality?

are these people found to support heinous shit or is this just wartime shenanigans?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 13 hours ago (6 children)

Dude is Finnish, from his own mouth, it's just normal racism against an aggressive imperial, like how people hate the us

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

fremdscham++ 😬

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (3 children)

Hm i never coded a line in my life, but i always wondered so honest question to the experts here: is it realistic that someone codes security back doors so hidden in other bad or wrong documented code, that nobody recognizes it in OSS community? I mean code is getting more complicated and specialized, dont you need more and more human resources (more than one person and hopefully not all with a bad intention) to check over that code? If im correct you shouldnt let more code into your software than the community is able to check an validate several times... Doesnt mean it has to be russians that need to be excluded idk

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

There will be a million security issues across all OSS. Some of it will be intentional; if so definitely don’t expect it to be a “findable” back door. It will be a set of vulnerabilities across several projects, that when combined allow the perpetrators privilege-escalations or a known path through a security system. Removing “Russians” from contribution doesn’t actually stop that, everyone can use a VPN and work as an American or whatever, but it does send a signal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Interesting answers, thanks!

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 14 hours ago

Wow, some real clown behavior from Linus.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 14 hours ago

I was expecting an adequate response, but this... I'll just say I'm very disappointed.

[–] gigachad 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Lol, ml. users getting wild in the comments

[–] [email protected] 102 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Huh. Lot of people Russian' to conclusions in this thread.

Sorry.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 13 hours ago

Shhh. Let Linus Finnish.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

As to sending me a revert patch - please use whatever mush you call brains. I'm Finnish. Did you think I'd be supporting Russian aggression? Apparently it's not just lack of real news, it's lack of history knowledge too."

Peska perkele right up your asses, Russian trolls.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

The comments under the article are a special kind of braindead.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

Always is with Phoronix comments.

You find everything there from "Gnome is satanist" all the way up to pro-genocide crap.

I really don't know what it is about the site that brings out the craziest souch.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

The absolute disregard of having any moderation is what does that. If there was any, there wouldn't be the cases like having someone be there by their third account, after the first two got banned.

Not to mention that controversy = angry people and trolls = more clicks = more ad revenue. I don't think Michael wants to miss out on it.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

For half a second there, I was like "yeah, so glad Lemmy is more rational than that site".

Few comments later, folks be talking about "Ukranian Nazis"...

[–] [email protected] 24 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (4 children)

Lemmy.ml, it always is when it comes to simping for Russia

I don't know what the hell is wrong with that instance.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 16 hours ago

Hoo boy, you weren't kidding. I find it amazing how quickly this went from "the kernel team is enforcing sanctions" to an an unfriendly abstract debate about the definition of liberalism. I shouldn't, really, but I still am.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 19 hours ago

Yeah. Why is everyone saying this is removing their contribution credits? It's just a list of active maintainers...

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

So the decision stands and is okay'ed by Linus Torvalds.

Good! 👍

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

One of the worst news I've read lately.

Why aren't Israeli maintainers removed? Oh because linux is basically owned by IBM now.

The linux kernel isn't free anymore. It's open source, but not free.

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