Bring back chopping off hands for thieves.
this post was submitted on 11 Oct 2024
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It baffles me that "delivering" packages like this is a standard practice over there. I'm in the EU, and if I'm not home by the time the delivery is attempted, the company would call and ask when is a good time to try again, or would leave the thing to be collected at an office.
I'm in the EU and I don't have to be present for anything.
My guess is that wherever they is more prevalent they would require signatures/presence.
It used to be that they would not leave packages unattended at a residence, they would leave a note on the door about an attempted delivery. I suppose with the rise of online shopping things had to change. I don't see American delivery companies bothering with trying to contact you/retrying deliveries, they just want to get out as many packages as possible... and there is a LOT they have to deliver in a day.
You do have a lot of choices in how you want your items delivered depending on the delivery company. Most of the have apps/websites where you can choose to have them hold the package, or deliver it to a specific location on property. By default packages will be left at the door.
Personally I have never had a problem with porch pirates, and if a package is expensive or important I will have the delivery company hold it and pick it up there.
Yeah, same up here in Norway. If I'm not home they will offer to leave the package at a collection point, or drop it off at my place of work. As far as I know, they're not allowed to just leave it at my door step and hope for the best.
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When I had my phone delivered it was from a special courier, not the normal post. I had to show ID in order to accept the delivery.
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In Germany you have to give permission in the tracking menu to have them drop the package off somewhere else. I live in an apartment building so I usually tell them to drop it in the hallway of the building, since there's usually someone at home to at least open the door downstairs if I'm not at home. I've seen packages outside the front door only once here and it is not a place I'd ever choose.
In my region, I see packages in front of doors in a lot places 😂 guess I live in a peaceful country.
We can even leave cars unlocked, and they don’t get stolen, but we don’t, out of fear that a kid may loosen the handbrake in play..
It's not so much a matter of the region itself, I live in a pretty decent area of my city. It's more that the houses here are all apartment buildings so in most cases the packages will get placed in the hallways instead of the front door of the building. There's just not really a need to ever have them drop it off there.
Here it gets most of the time placed where the “Briefkästen“ are, if not specified by customer, that wishes their package placed. So, sometimes in and sometimes outside. A phone would most likely be placed in the “Milchkasten” which is a place in the “Briefkasten“ emerged from a time where it was normal to get daily milk delivered. 🤔 well as far as I got told by my parents.
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We UPS drivers at least get signatures for the damn things. Who would have thought the delivery drivers getting paid shitty wages would be working with thieves to augment their wages lmao
That is why apple is sending iPhone using UPS, I guess..
Really? Where at? Every phone delivery I’ve gotten via UPS does a ding, dong, dash (and sometimes not even ringing the bell). No I don’t have a release signed.
I have to either redirect it to UPS store (hard to do since it’s overnighted and I don’t want to pay an additional fee), or make sure I’m monitoring my camera for motion alerts all day.
FedEx too, even for packages marked signature required I've waited at home for them and the driver leaves the package and rushes off before I can even get to the door.
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Aren't these things trackable? Don't phones have an IMEI and can't they be remote-bricked if stolen?
I mean, police don't care, but Apple could render these useless if they wanted to.
Not completely bricked, but they can be blacklisted from all carriers
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Thinking when the "leaving packages before door" will stop (by shops refusing to send it that way due to cost related to stealing)
It's a bit of a rock and a hard place for then. If you won't leave my package and I have to be there or go somewhere else to pick it up? I'm not ordering your shit.
You're saying you prefer it when the delivery man leaves your expensive gear in your porch, so thieves can pick it up?
In this case why order anything? You might as well leave cash on your porch.
That's pretty much how the rest of the world works, either delivery to pickup points or delivery to person only
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I think it is necessary to make a difference between delivering cheap stuff and a new iPhone or laptop.
That's fair, I don't typically order really expensive stuff. I just think that if I have to go to a store to pick up my package of small cheap shit then I might as well drive all the way to the store and buy the stuff there in the first place. Why order it online and pay shipping then?
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Generally, phone delivery requires the residents signature at the time of delivery. At least that has been the case with T-Mobile and Verizon in my experience. Does AT&T not require signature?
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