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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.


Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.


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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Obviously at high population densities foraging is itself a problem.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
  1. There's not enough for everyone to forage, passing laws allowing everyone to forage would be like a swarm of locusts that the environment might no bounce back from. Wild animals can't just go to Aldi's if hipsters "foraged" all the food.

  2. These days you can't really trust foraged food due to all the pollution

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In some countries (with low population density and low pollution) there are laws allowing to roam and forage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_to_roam

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The only mention of foraging is berries in Norway, and that doesn't even include every kind of berry...

Wild berry foraging is part of the right. Picking cloudberries may, however, be restricted on privately owned land in northern parts of Norway.[

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are in practice very few restrictions in Scandinavia. It only works because the population density and rate of abuse is low.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's not what your source says...

And it's not even what you claimed the source said originally...

I get you're the mod and this is your sub, but you're just saying random shit that's factually untrue.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

My source on allemannsretten is having been there and making use of it. I'm sorry if the random source I pulled up doesn't fit your criteria. Maybe this will https://www.lifeinnorway.net/allemannsretten-right-to-roam/

Yes, the details in different Scandinavian+Finland countries will vary.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

In 17th- to 20th-century England, the Lockeian idea that property should be made and held by the highest-value creators formed the justification for enclosure of the commons.

Thats not a lockeian idea. Locke was quite clear that private property was unjustifiable when there wasn't as much and as good available for everyone else.