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[–] HorseyMD 13 points 11 hours ago

Fuck Leon Skum

[–] [email protected] 96 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Sending so many satellites also requires so many rocket launchers that Google passed on it because it was too polluting.

Starlink is the poster child of "fuck you, I got mine."

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[–] [email protected] 111 points 18 hours ago (19 children)

starlink wouldn't have a leg to stand on (in the US, can't speak for elsewhere) if isps were held to installing/maintaining/upgrading infrastructure that was already paid for by the federal government decades ago and then the isps just didn't do the work.

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[–] Saledovil 23 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Isn't Starlink also too expensive because you have to replace the satellites every 5 years? As in you'd have to sell to basically everybody on earth to be profitable. And they charge 50Euros a month, almost twice as much as I currently pay, and I'm satisfied with my current provider.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Their target market is people who don't have a better option, not people who already have fibre to the door.

[–] Saledovil 7 points 13 hours ago (8 children)

And those people are famously wealthy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes, RV travelers, cruise lines, multiple militaries.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 hours ago

not exactly my friend.

[–] Rekorse 4 points 13 hours ago

Its their data thats worth money. Now its collectable.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Don't forget all the fun chemicals they leave in the atmosphere when they deorbit.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 19 hours ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 217 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Fuckin space garbage is what it is.

Yes it was impressive that they landed a rocket again once, but the quantity of launches and satellites is doing nothing good for anyone. It should've been a stepping stone for better technology, but instead they're just mining money. Privately owned space engineering is a disgrace to humanity.

Space engineering used to unite even the worst opponents as with the international space station, but now those institutions are underfunded, while billionaire space-musk can shoot his loads into the atmosphere without any regard to the rest of the worlds population living inside said sphere.

Tax the asshole already.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 22 hours ago (9 children)

I was excited about starlink when it was announced, but already it's way too expensive, already bows to actual totalitarians and isn't affordable on the ocean and not available in remote places without a license.

And with more satellite constellations planned by amazon and others, it seems the kessler syndrome is just a question of time.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

On the Kessler point, Starlink birds fly at an altitude where they will deorbit in 4-8 years if they go dead, so that particular orbit will always be fairly clean, and if a Kessler event does happen, the debris will deorbit in a reasonable length of time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

A portion of the debris from collisions would enter elliptical orbits though so might need more time to de-orbit. But loosing all LEO satellites and even just 4-8 years without use of LEO would be an absolute catastrophe. You could still launch satellites to medium or geosynchronous orbit though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Where will they go after they deorbit? Do we get em back?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

They burn up on re-entry, at least they're supposed to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Thanks, atmosphere 🙂❤️ that's interesting design! Will any of the debris reach the planet or is it designed to break apart in a particular fashion?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago

Will any of the debris reach the planet

Not in a solid form. There may be some undesirable effects though at greater numbers, we don't really have good data. Here's a blog post by the European Space Agency talking about a couple studies on the effects of satellite reentry. Note that the satellites they simulated were significantly larger than the Starlink satellites.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 20 hours ago (32 children)

Is it weird I agree these are terrible and yet also hope this spurs the end of ground based observation in favor of a larger orbital presence?

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 22 hours ago (13 children)

To me Elon Musk is like the real-life, slightly less dramatic and slightly less evil Handsome Jack out of Borderlands

[–] Rekorse 3 points 12 hours ago

I don't know which has said wilder shit honestly.

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