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[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 months ago (9 children)

What's wrong with overnight oats? I really like them.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 months ago

I read it as cutting through the spin. We use contemporary words like overnight oats, instead of words like gruel that have strong connotations of poverty, for essentially the same food, to obscure the fact that we are the same working class as medieval peasants were. There's nothing wrong with gruel; and we're just not as far removed from peasantry as we've been led to believe.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Some people get a kick out of making you feel bad about anything and everything you enjoy by reframing it in the worst possible light.

Oh, you bicycle to work? Enjoy breathing in all that carbon monoxide from the cars passing you and a greatly increased risk of dying due to a driver not thinking that you're a human being. Hope you don't cross a street and inconvenience a driver you selfish prick!

Oh, you eat primarily vegetarian with only a little bit of meat? One, meat is still murder, you're a prick. Two, of course you would mention it. Three, fuck you and your entire family and your entire gene pool you piece of shit.

I could probably keep going but you get it right? Don't let the things that you enjoy be taken away from you by people who are chasing clout and will say anything that they possibly can in order to get it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Way to miss the point. It's about some people acting like these are choices rather than "this is the best I can do". Would you really prefer the inconsistency of the gig economy if well paying consistent jobs were available? Would you eat rice and beans for every meal if you actually had the choice? Wouldn't you prefer just a few more square feet in your tiny home(maybe in the kitchen or bathroom)?

Acting like people are making all of these choices out of genuine desire and not a good helping of "this is what I have to do to survive" is what the meme is criticizing and what you on your high horse up there failed to see.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I would love a tiny home.

But fuck the gig economy and contract only employment.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (4 children)

My favourite part of Tiny Homes is how they came into vogue and were subsequently priced out of reach of poor people.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Fortunatly, the cost to construct one has not changed similarly, and there are at least a few projects around the country (US) where land is owned by a charitable organization/person/collective and tiny homes are being as a solution for some people.

I really wish I knew of any in my area, I'm currently unhoused and live in a car, doing gigs for the greedy (waiting on a previous state to send mine my background info... for what is now 2 fucking months, so that I can be approved for working in my field) and living in a safe situation without the risk of others doing something to me, is something I very much want to have for the first time ever in my 30 years. I'm a cross country trans refugee, who's somehow unknowingly rented from a neonazi, a "friend" who robbed me, another "friend" that just took my (sub)rent money and split without paying the rent, or my childhood with an abusive family.... so I have concerns....

And a tiny home at a fair price/rate would likely be affordable for me, but I just haven't found anything.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

From what I understand they are still affordable, the cost savings is building it yourself and having the discipline and patience to be able to do something like that on your wages.

Building a tiny home is a grueling and arduous task. There is nothing TurnKey about it.

My cousin built one because his mom lent him some land to build it on and so far it has cost him about $10,000.

That's pretty good but he lives on a truck driver's salary and he has a wife and a kid. He's deeply in debt from his tiny house project and he's almost done with it.

Once he finishes he'll be able to claw his way back up out of debt, which is good, but there are no TurnKey solutions that are also affordable.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

The smaller the home the less I have to clean.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I eat oatmeal with raisins, pistachios, and molasses like 4 mornings a week. It's fucking delicious

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

pistachios

Well how bougie of you

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Each serving gets like 8 salted pistachios from the bulk food aisle at the HEB

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's like $17 worth of nuts in their breakfast

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

I know you're just making fun, but I bought $6 worth of pistachios today and it'll probably last me about 3 weeks

[–] Kecessa 6 points 2 months ago

For some people eating oats = poor, people with money eat bread and eggs and bacon and cereals in the morning...

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Tiny homes are fine if that's all you need or want. I don't know it overnight oats are. They're right about the gig economy though, that's some terrible bullshit right there

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago

Its just your standard rolled oats with the other goodies and your preferred liquid stuck in a jar overnight, ready to go right out of the fridge in the morning.

Personal favorite is cinnamon roll flavored! There are some great recipes out there.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think it's the combo, but definitely the tiny home pulled it all together

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I build a few tiny homes over the past 10 years. I think they are cool and all and it's usually people who are often away for skiing, surfing, mountaineering. These kind of people. What's the point of a huge house that you don't want of need. My biggest problems with it is that they are not actually super cheap. Or at least not proportional.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I make overnight oats nearly every night.

I use steel cut oats in the slow cooker over night, add dates, apple, cinnamon and chia seeds.

It is ready for me before I leave for work at ~6:10, and ready for the rest of the family when they have breakfast at 7:30.

What is not to like.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What is not to like.

Being awake at that hour.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I finish at 2:30 in afternoon, I'm home before the kids....

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ok but you go to bed at like 20

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[–] the_post_of_tom_joad 33 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Not getting to eat breakfast with them

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Hot overnight oats? I always made them in a mason jar in the fridge. My favorite was 1/2 cup of oats, 1/2 cup of vanilla yogurt, 1/2 cup of milk, all in a jar and then fill the rest of the jar up with frozen blueberries and strawberries (cut ones). Close, put in fridge, eat cold the next morning. The oats will have soaked up the liquid and gotten soft. It's a nice cold cereal and quick to pour into a bowl, stir a bit, and chow down.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

i wish i was a peasant

peasants had the church that would feast them like 100 times a year for saint days and shite liketh that

i are a serf

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, if you tithed, so they were feeding you with your own food. Also not a real feast most of the time.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And while the church wanted a tithe, the manor lord required you to work one or more days per week on his field, using your own tools. This was rent. There might've also been monetary rent in addition to work rent. And in addition to the church tithe, the manor lord wanted a tithe too. You couldn't choose to rent somewhere else, either - while the manor lord didn't own you, he owned the piece of land you lived on, could dictate your terms, and you'd have to pay a fine for moving away to another manor lord's service. If he sold the parcel of land, you'd have to do all the same to the new landlord. If you could manage to hide in a city for a year + one day, you'd be free. But if you got caught, you'd be imprisoned until your lord came and picked you up.

These were the general rules in my area, others would differ. Obviously they changed over time and so on. And much of this is from the chronicles and those were written by the Order, so the real situation might've been worse even.

There's plenty wrong with our current situation and we seem to be sliding back towards serfdom, but serfdom is definitely worse than what we have now and we can NOT afford to go back.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

First, thanks for the informative comment.

The general rules in my area

Made me imagine that we'd figured out federation backwards in time, and you were commenting from a middle ages Lemmy instance.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

you can criticise the world without resorting to past = bad which often hides things we have lost.

Also oats are nutritious, delicious, and efficient.

How about pointing out how hard you work to afford food that is often thrown out lest it undermine keeping you slaved to "the economy" etc.

No actually I'm not done. Wanting fewer material things is good actually. Opulence need not manifest in terms of the aquisition of territory and things. What if you have a tiny home and breakfast gruel but you get idle time, community, gorgeous views, freedom etc.

the problems with society aren't that you can't eat figs every meal and stroll around your estate, it's that mere subsitence demands your soul.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

OP has upset the peasantry.

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Lotta cope and seethe in here as they flay the messenger for bein so rude in handin' em a mirror they don't like the look of. I get it yeah? But they're mad in the wrong direction

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Aside from debating oats, peasants had more time off than we did.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Overnight oats are really good for my digestion and diet. What, you want me eating steak and eggs?

[–] thatKamGuy 20 points 2 months ago

It’s more mocking the rebranding from something terrible, to something more appealing.

Meanwhile, I have a black coffee for breakfast to help concentrate my hatred in order for me to get through the day..

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you eat overnight oats for your tummy troubles the post clearly isn't for you. If you eat it because you can't afford other meals it is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Well if you eat it because youb can't afford anything else you're quite bright as it's quite the savings comparitively, most would spend more money on a worse meal!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not surprising, our gut flora love the stuff. My old microbio lecturer used to always get his class to run an experiment where people would test the growth of different types of good bacteria found in the gut using different food sources. Some would be random foods, others would be bio active drink made for the task and, ever present, was porridge (about the same thing). Porridge always won.

It also has one of, if not the lowest glycemic index of all carbs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Gruel is top tier

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

And they're amazing for your diet in general. M-F such an easy no brain option for a meal. Make individual containers Sunday night. Food for the rest of the week.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Without a call to action, this is just an insult.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

I feel like my oats have been disparaged. The peasantry demands an apology.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

I mean, yes but have you had good overnight oats? So good!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Put dried fruits and spices from around the world in mine I eat better than emperor's

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I hate it 😔

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