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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (10 children)

I think that maybe having two similar lightning bolt symbols that mean different things wasn't the best design decision that the USB guys could have made.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Handy guide, but this whole USB situation is a cock-up, since it needs the freakin guide in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Meh, while there really could be less. At least they are all physically compatible. And backwards protocol compatible to the lowest common denominator. Which is a huge step forward.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

All they had to do was require stamped icons on the ends of the plugs in the spec, and instead we have the current cable mystery clusterfuck 🤦

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (4 children)

USB in 1996: Let's make one connector that handles everything

USB in 2024: Let's make one connector do thirty different incompatible combinations of things

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

To be fair, the goal is the same.

  1. Not everyone needs the sheer CPU, power, and costs of a 40 GB/s connection.
  2. Higher wattage chargers cost more
  3. Not everyone needs a USB port that does video out (even if it should be standard now that virtually every new GPU should be compatible)
  4. Even if the CPU and GPU support a feature, the OEM can use a cheaper controller
  5. The controller firmware can lack support for a feature or be buggy

The USB forum can only solve points 4 and 5 without raising costs on the cheapest hardware.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (3 children)

What about red USB-A ports, and USB-C ports with no symbol by them at all (like on phones and desktop PCs)?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've literally never seen any of these except the top symbol.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Came here disappointed to see no one said anything about Black D inside white P

Edit: yes, I have the humour of a 16 yo

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The standard might be complicated if you want the specifics, but for everyday use it's incredibly simple, and I love it. The number of times I needed this information is 1, even though most of my devices, including an external monitor, are USB-C.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Well, except all the legacy symbols on devices older than current gen.

[–] Fuctangle 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

Why not label the ports and cables with:

  • 10Gb/s
  • 2.1Amps
  • 1080p at 60hz

It's future proof and doesn't need a decoder manual other than basic literacy. It can be in whatever language the fucking keyboard is. If you want to be redundant but even more clear:

  • Universal Serial Bus -> (this hole right here)
  • Speed: 40Gb/s
  • Power: 2.4Amps
  • Audio/Video: 4K at 120Hz or 8K at 30Hz
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Why use more words when less is easier.

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