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Oh I feel this .. the weird and shallow abusiveness that errupted once I engaged lemmy-world about the vegan community admin incident. Truly the cognitive dissonance morality issue of our times. So many will die or live the majority of their lives having been exposed to ideas that they just were not capable of processing.
It's really not that surprising. There have always been activists who lack a consistent worldview. Whites only unions, communists in favour of colonising etc.
A lot of people genuinely don't see non human animals as even remotely comparable to a human, and often react with intense indignation at even the merest suggestion of comparison. This was, often very cruelly, patterned into them at a young age. I have hope that most will come round, after all we all did and idk about you but I am a garbage fire of a human being.
There's always 3 parts of someone's politics you have to take note of:
Economic base (progressive economic system vs. status quo and reactionary economic system --> eg. socialism vs. capitalism)
Superstructure at home (culture + gov't issues --> eg. racial equality struggle + liberal democracy's struggle between elected and appointees)
Foreign Policy (critical support of ideologically-aligned gov'ts, if not strategically-aligned ones, against larger evils)
And if at least one part of someone's ideological thinking are very much hostilely contrary to the rest of 2/3, they should rethink their entire viewpoint on why it is so
This is r/onguardforthee being no different from r/canada when animal rights are brought up.