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[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Mfw splitting the atom, entering space, stepping in the moon, etc. wasn't radical or revolutionary:

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Pretty sure this means radical and revolutionary in the political sense. Though most scientists and astronauts weren't billionaires - they were government employees.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It still rings hollow, unless revolutions to overthrow monarchy weren't radical or revolutionary.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

Which revolutions were inaccessible to the poor?

And honestly, yeah, revolutions like the American one where a bunch of rich people used propaganda, money, and threats to secede so they and an oligarchic "democracy" of white male land owners could pay lower taxes and privatize public land weren't as radical or revolutionary as subsequent propaganda made them out to be.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

I mean it depends, doesn't it? If landed gentry overthrew a monarch concerned with the welfare of peasantry so they could maintain exploitation it's not at all radical or revolutionary in the way the meme means it.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This isn't really about that, it's about vibes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Nah, you choose to take it that way.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Pretty sure this is just some "I'm 14 and this is deep" shit lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nah, ironically you're reading too much into it.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yep. The race to the Moon was just a dick measuring contest between the US and USSR. Manned space travel is a meaningless ego trip for governments. Unmanned space travel is equally useless in practical terms - learning about other planets does nothing to help the proletariat on our own - but at least wastes less money.

Global internet connection via satellite, and GPS, on the other hand, have helped the proletariat in actual practical terms. It's a shame it took all that billionaire ego dick waving to get there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

I think honestly this is a valid critique even as a fan of space exploration and a "luxury space communism" wisher.

I think visiting other planets has given us some scientific knowledge that is valuable in and of itself in a quest for self-improvement and exploration - seeking of answers to our questions and new questions. I would hope, that this one day can become a worthwhile pursuit for the collective humanity as a voluntary quest, but obviously it's a misallocation of resources when there are capitalists to be eaten first and it's only done as a way to one up the rival empire.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Something something environmentalism without class struggle is just gardening

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

*scientists figure out faster-than-light travel*

Me, an intellectual: Clearly not revolutionary because I can't use my mass transit (heh) ticket on it

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah I like driving, but manufacturers need to bring prices down who has $100k to spend on a car

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

China invented a few electric cars that are just as good as a Tesla for 1/3rd the price. Our benevolent plutocrats responded by putting a 100% tariff on Chinese electric cars.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

i dunno i think the nuclear bomb was pretty revolutionary