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This is a community dedicated to discussion around historical arms, mechanically unique arms, and Ian McCollum's Forgotten Weapons content. Posts requesting an identification of a particular gun (or other arm) are welcome.

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[–] YungOnions 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

What's the deal with the Excelsior P2? It looks like a grenade cosplaying as the ghost of Kaiser Wilhelm.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It is an impact initiated grenade. During flight, the propeller on the nose rotates down to arm. The grenade is actually a stick grenade, hidden by the cloth. The cloth is to help it orient itself nose forward in flight for the propeller.

[–] YungOnions 5 points 4 months ago

Huh, TIL. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's missing the US Mk 1. From the wiki:

In 1917, the Mk 1 grenade was created.

However, it became apparent that the Mk 1 grenade was quite difficult to use in the field. The grenades were often not ignited properly before being thrown, and enemies would return the grenade, this time properly lit.

[–] Tb0n3 1 points 4 months ago

Yeah. Having the pineapple in my head as the quintessential grenade I wondered where it started, seeing the F1. Turns out it was just as the war was ending that they created the Mk II. I would imagine they didn't include the Mk I because it was such junk.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Bother world wars you mean?

Some quick googling says the F1 grenade went into service in 1939.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

The chart shows the French F1, not the Soviet one.