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Thinking about getting one, what did y'all think? Looking at the Zeros.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

FYI, Zero tried to float pay-to-unlock bullshit on their bikes just like Tesla. For that reason I would never consider one; they are not a company that can be trusted.

I fully support getting an electric motorcycle in general, though. (I also support getting a motorcycle in general.)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Pay to unlock is such bullshit. Sadly it'll become the norm, so you're going to have to keep jumping brands when whatever brand you use starts implementing it. Because sooner or later they will.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The more mainstream it becomes the more people will start hacking these systems.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And the more they get hacked the more they will be locked down. It's a losing battle for the consumer.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

This is why right-to-repair legislation is so important.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

I rode a few Zeros at a promotional event and really enjoyed them. I had an Africa Twin, and was mostly going on longer rides out in the sticks, to which I agree with other posters suggesting the range isn't great. However, I'd love one for a commuter to get to and from work, as well as for a quick spin whenever I got the itch.

But the $12k+ starting price just isn't where it is at for the moment, considering less than half that can get you a 70+ mpg commuter bike.

Hoping when I get back into motorbikes when the kids grow up, there will be a plethora of cheap, fun commuter/city EVs.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Have an EV, used to have a motorcycle, never had an EV motorcycle. I was looking into getting one after my bike died, and after taking a test ride, it did not feel like a motorcycle, it felt like a really fast scooter. Now this was 6 years ago, they may have changed some things but if you are used to a motorcycle, it doesn’t feel like that. If you’ve never had a motorcycle, or it’s been a while, it might work for you. If it’s a utility thing it will probably work way better, it was a fun chill thing for me, so feel was way more important.

Cars are a lot easier to make feel like an ICE because you aren’t literally straddling the motor, a bike you are way more connected, so changing the feel has way more of an impact. Schedule a test ride and see if you like it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

The aptera looks like a good one

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Zero is a fine motorcycle. I assume you've done your homework about EV bikes and you understand what you're doing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

One thing I've heard about Zeros is that maintaining them is a bit of a bitch unless you're ok with everything going through the dealer. Some parts that should be commodity aren't, and not for good reason.

The bike is good but the ownership experience.... Meh!

I'd suggest finding some owners.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Adding a fun anecdote. I remember someone on Reddit who installed a second charger on their bike. So you could plug into two EVSE at the same time. Not sure what kind of charging speed they got, but I imagine pretty quick.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I don't own an EV motorbike but I've been following a couple different manufacturers:

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

The Ola one looks pretty dang nice; if it were available in the US I'd probably buy one just for random rides on nice weather days.

https://newatlas.com/motorcycles/ola-electric-roadster-motorcycles/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Their stats are absolute bullshit though. That speed, battery capacity, and price is impossible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

These are expected for 2026

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Just picked up a BMW CE-04 a couple weeks ago. I haven't had time to really ride it much - I have been out of town since a couple days after getting it. The few rides I have been able to get in have been pretty good.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Motorcycles are recreational vehicles. If I ride one, it's usually going to be for a long distance. They're also not terribly aerodynamic or efficient. I ride them out to the middle of nowhere mostly, far away from any charging stations. Just my $0.02

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hahaha what? Do you know how efficient most motorcycles are? Do you know how aerodynamic a full fairing bike is?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you know how efficient most motorcycles are?

...yes?

Do you know how aerodynamic a full fairing bike is?

Also yes. Anymore questions?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They're also not terribly aerodynamic or efficient.

Lmao

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 weeks ago