Which are you? : memes

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

That wil convince many people and help them accept that you are a fucking idiot and should rethink your life choices

[+] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hence the double quotes I suspect.

If you don't know him, that person is a ytuber called Vaush - having only a couple of videos of him he strikes me as one of the most untruthful people on this planet.

He is a radlib who tries to argue on the basis on marx' and lenins work to "vote blue no matter who". I've seen him claim Marx today would've been a Biden staffer for example. He also is unable to see the programmatic imperialism behind neoliberal concepts such as free trade agreements like NAFTA and defends these conceptually. He effectively hordes socialist leaning youths back into supporting the status quo so I wouldn't wonder if one day it is revealed that the FBI secretly funds him

I think he is said to have pleaded for the legalization of consensual sexual relationships with underaged children, hence the reference.

Edit: No idea if he actually defended pedophilia. Personally I wouldn't think that he meant it. I am not an expert on Vaush (luckily) I only mentioned the accusations bc it is what tripped up the commenter.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, that user is not lying.

On top of everything else, Vaush engages in ableist, racist, transphobic, and sexist language, unapologetically.

He's a genuine piece of excrement

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's pretty well known and easy to verify, but I have no interest in googling this reprehensible being. If you've listened to him in the past, then I do wish you a swift recovery. Cheers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I just don't trust people (like the person above) who [...] casually go "I think they're a pedophile"

Oof, dude you make me feel bad for giving you a good faithed response after your first comment.

For someone who urges to be careful with accusations you are pretty grossly misrepresenting my comment here

non-ironically throw around terms like "radlib"

I don't throw it around like Vaush throws around "red-fascist", "tankie", "antisemite" and every other slur , I use it specifically for someone who draws upon radical aesthetic in the abstract but supports the capitalist, imperialist status-quo in the specific.

You can chose to be offended by that, but Vaush is the definition of a radlib

Honestly I have only ever used it for him. Thinking of it I might use "Vaushite" in the future which has the added benefit of visually representing the fact that his disingenious output is nothing but a thin layer around "shit"

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I understand getting tripped up when others chime in with varying intentions. Also my initial comment should have been clearer and did leave more room to read a pedophilia accusation into it than I intended.

I can see that you argue in good faith and I apologize for some reddit impulses that I haven't unlearned yet.

Personally I don't see the equation of leftism with defending CP in OPs post though.

The way I read it OP groups "meat-eaters" into categories with each being a drastic exaggeration (the "lvl 5 bloodmouth" is a straight up cannibal) so I think none of this can be taken seriously.

One "group" is the The "Leftist" meat eater. I expand the quotes to something like The pseudo-leftist meat eater who is then represented by Vaush. To me this is basically a 1 person group that might as well just be called "Vaush" but calling him The pseudo Leftist is just one more swing at him.

I am definitely both a leftist and not a vegan and I don't mind the post in fact I found it quite funny (but obviously very few ppl agree). I agree though that slapping the CP stuff under Vaushs pic is unfair to him, as some people will take it seriously, I have to say that humor was also not lost on me though

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can see that you argue in good faith and I apologize for some reddit impulses that I haven’t unlearned yet.

You and me both man. Someone the other day said "that classic reddit performative snark" and fuck me if it didn't feel like I heard a gunshot. Looking through this thread I came pretty close to going full tilt that direction again. Still learning I suppose.

Personally I don’t see the equation of leftism with defending CP in OPs post though.

So I'm a little surprised to see this. The image explicitly says:

THE "LEFTIST"
No ethical consumption under capitalism. Legalize child porn NOW!" (bolding my own)

So the post to me is saying "leftists want to legalize child porn." With Vaush as a poster for all leftists. I do not see it as purely about Vaush anymore than i see the "Plants Rights Activist" commentary being about solely Joe Rogan (which funny enough is not even a stance I think he holds, but I dislike him and don't care to confirm lol).

Let me give another example: If I was making a meme and put "Conservatives [insert picture of George Bush above it]: Wants their steak bloody. Hates gay people." Would you say "ah this is just about George Bush" or would you see it as I see it, which is a statement about ALL conservatives with simply an image of one?

The images are just meant to accent the content, not be taken directly as the subject. Does that make sense?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I guess I should have made it more clear, that I was only trying to summarize sentiment about Vaush for you to understand the reference, I was not making anything up

To be clear: I do not remember nor care what exactly Vaush argued for in that video people point to as I have no interest in wasting more time with Vaush. Personally I don't believe he would defend pedophilia and just wants to be edgy.

When I said "It is said" I meant it to be understood like "people say that about him" not that it were common knowledge. I apologize if my English was not on point.

I think your accusation towards me making something up isn't fair but I agree with your notion of being careful with the topic in general so I will edit my original comment to reflect that I can't and won't weigh in on the debate on whether he did or did not defend pedophilia.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That’s fair. I did come in a little hot, but I am just very tired of watching people casually throw around “pedophile.“ I understand that is not what you were doing, but this post set up a very specific situation that it looked like you were building on. I over interpreted your intention, and I apologize. Still, this post is total rage bait, and kind of messed up ultimately. It’s an absurd, shoehorned attempt to try and equate liberals with pedophiles. It should be removed frankly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I know nothing about Vaush, but I do know abut Aaron Swartz. In this archived page he argued for legalizing the possession and distribution (not sure if that contains production) of child porn since "We don't arrest everyone with videotapes of murders, or make it illegal for TV stations to show people being killed" and all you need to get arrested is click on a download link or join an online group (no matter whether or not you delete it or if you knew it was child porn). He also says something about it not being abuse before arguing that.

Honestly I'm not sure what to think about that, but it still makes me think OP's meme was put out to slander groups through strawmen. It does not help that I can't figure out which parts of OP's meme are satire.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's from a clip of that steamer taken out of context.

Or more accurately clipped in such a way to make what he said be the opposite of the point he was making.

Basically he was debating someone and was saying that the exploitation of children is wrong in all aspects. He phrased his point poorly and it was clipped.

The streamer (Vaush) is actually pretty based on a lot of things.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Missing the all important - don't care option, which I feel the vast majority of people would fall into

[–] CookieJarObserver 9 points 1 year ago

Scumbag. Fuck you.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I find it amusing that people's obnoxious desire to be a White Saviour extends even to animals. It is now doubly funny that vegans appear to be cozying up to fascists in their mad quest. Definitely paints veganism in a good light.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The fuck are you talking about? Did you forget to take your meds?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

nice casual erasure of all non-white vegans

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Idiots who think we're somehow Above Nature can exist in any people, but the core of the philosophy stems from the same vaguely-biblical colonizer origin. I have nothing but contempt for you.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I would have been torn between leftist philosopher and scumbag, but I really want someone to refer to me as Bloodmouth. That's metal as fuck.

Anyway, it takes five seconds to google what happens to a dairy cow if you stop milking them. The answer may surprise you /s

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Lmao.

I'm totally fine with murdering animals for utility/convenience.

🎶 It's the circle of life 🎶

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I eat whatever taste good.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'm the "unknowing". Except I've seen the animals being born, fed them, seen them being transported 2.9km to the Butcher and even plucked the chickens. Either they sell it there or give it back to the farm to process it.
I herded them to the grassland early in the morning and brought them back at the end of the day. Or watched them, since they and the dog knew the drill.
We even have two sheep in our backyard. 20 are - more than enough - of nice lawn, with two sheds.
The meat I eat IS from happy animals. I know because I knew the animals.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

this is so over the top, it would not surprise me in the least if it turned out to be a straw meme someone made to make vegans look bad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does it make anyone look good? I'm trying to see who is portrayed as good or normal here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Nobody, this is just next level shitposting. So many contradictions it doesn't make any sense

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

milking them does seem to be necessary

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