Who the heck did they survey that had this contradictory thought? 69% of dem and 70% of repub dissaprove of moon mission but 62% overall want more space travel?????? How do they think we plan to have more space travel without a moon base?
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Maybe they are bad ay data, cause that would be 31% Dem and 30% rep approve so add them together and round up a little and boom 62% approval
I point out why this is wrong but I suspect it wouldn’t help.
....well it might not help because I did it wrong on purpose trying to sort out why the OG article messed up? Unless I'm misunderstanding you
A ‘no take, only throw’ mentality.
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A massive amount of Americans are idiots so I would not trust what they have to say. To get our selves to the outer planets we need to perfect the tools that will allow us to reach planets. The moon is a great place to perfect those tools.
A majority of Americans have little to no education in the areas of science that NASA researches and develops for.
That's like saying the sourdough breadbakers think that the Atlanta Braves should hit fewer homeruns and focus more on defense.
The only reason it would make sense to return to the moon is to establish a base for exploration of Mars. I go really back and forth on space exploration. On one hand it is a giant money pit. On another, the research that has come out of space exploration has been beneficial to life here on earth.
The technologies we invent along the way are worth the investment, in my opinion. Look at everything that came out of the original space race.
Nah. If we go back to the Moon, we are going to need more than "new technologies", but an actual purpose.
Right now, Helium-3, rare earth metals, and a slingshot to the rest of the solar system are good reasons to colonize the Moon if we can figure out how to do it cheaply.
like ICBMs and freeze dried ice cream sandwiches!
Only the finest thermonuclear strawberries were used, now it's all artificial crap.
The technological breakthroughs aside, the first company that returns with mined goods from space is gonna be worth trillions.
I feel the 'pale blue dot' was/is philosophically important for humanity. To realize all our wars and arguments, struggles and victories, take place on this small and fragile rock, floating in an endless void of nothingness. I think this experience was both humbling and inspiring for millions, and this package only comes with (wo)manned space missions.
Long term, I also dream of space habitats and space industry, to reduce the strain on Earth's ecosystems. Or the other way around; space habitats dedicated to preservation.
Very long term, there just is no way around it. Humans will keep exploring and push the boundary. Also it's wise to have an off-site backup.
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Where do these oddballs (who approve of space programs, but not moon missions) think those asteroid mining missions are going to launch from?
Space tethers.
I'm glad that science isn’t a democracy.
However, I’m not so glad about NASA having to follow the current US Congress' whims all the time.
Many Americans are anti-intellectual science deniers.
I do not hold in high esteem opinions based on woo-woo.
We should have NASA's priorities determined by poll results from bar trivia machines.
If you want to hunt asteroids, go to the moon.
You read that right. What “many Americans” aren’t thinking about is that we are at the bottom of a very big gravity well here on Earth. Launching anything into space, like an asteroid destroyer, takes enormous energy to accomplish.
If instead we could launch from the moon, we’d be able to get bigger things into space faster and cheaper and more often. But to do this we need a base and a way to manufacture fuel. The raw materials are there, but we don’t have any of the infrastructure built.
Eventually we HAVE to get to a point where we are mining, refueling, and building off-Earth. The only thing we should be launching from Earth is people.
The moon is our first stop on this evolutionary path.
Most americans don't understand this, sadly
Happily, though, NASA isn’t run by internet poll 👍
It is ultimately run by elected representatives though. Popular opinions matter
I think they do occasionally toss a mission into the agenda because it will capture the popular imagination. NASA has it pretty well dialed in. They serve science so liberals are happy and they have big explodey rockets and a history of competing against enemies so conservatives are happy. You don’t get to half a percent of the national budget without a good sales pitch.
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Yes but most Americans think asteroid hunting requires a rifle.
Hey that’s not fair. They just think that all asteroids would be safer if all asteroids had rifles.
Americans thought it was a waste to go the first time too.
Only 33% of Americans supported trying to land on the moon according to a Gallup Poll from 1961 https://www.newspapers.com/image/118394464/?clipping_id=128550438&fcfToken=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJmcmVlLXZpZXctaWQiOjExODM5NDQ2NCwiaWF0IjoxNjkwNDAwNzAzLCJleHAiOjE2OTA0ODcxMDN9.MEY6lxes8ZstjM9mggg5zOxedJFf2RCbBklHOKFcw9w
It didnt have support over 50% until a few weeks before launch.
More detail here https://newsletter.pessimistsarchive.org/p/the-moon-landing-was-opposed-by-majority
Why can't we have both
Both would be best. Go to the moon and use it as a base/staging area for both asteroid hunting, and further reaching space travel.
Because politicians will use the argument to rile up their base, make sure neither gets accomplished, and pocket as much of the money as they can.
I remember a TED talk that sold me on big science: For every dollar we spent on the moon shots, we made fourteen.
The thing is, going to the moon involved doing a lot of development, and this time we're going to the moon better and are going to do more things.
At some point we'll want to put a colony up there, and will need still more development to make it work.
A lot of the technology that we use today was developed thanks to the space race. In fact, when the USSR was taking its victory laps for Sputnik, Eisenhower freaked out, signed the National Aeronautics and Space Act and then extended a grant to Fairchild Semiconductor which started the digital revolution in Silicon Valley, eventually propelling us into the cyberpunk dystopia of smart refrigerators and zombie bot-nets that we know today.
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Since when did we need to flip a coin on issues like this? Spoiler: We don't! There are plenty of resources to go around.
If anything was a waste of time, it was this poll. Go home, Pew Research, you're drunk.
Note the use of "many Americans" in the headline. If it was most they'd've said most. Clickbait headlines are the worst.
Just give them more money and do both
This is the obvious answer.
I wonder how much of this is politics. NASA is too popular to threaten to shut it down, but you can publicly condemn $otherParty is wasting money on program X
this may be an asinine fear based on my rudimentary knowledge, but I hope they never drill the moon, because human greed can't be contained and some dumb ass will just see $$$ signs like some looney toons cartoon shit in their eyes and want to mine the whole thing up. Then there goes a ton of shit that we depend on the moons gravity for. Pretty similar to the rick and morty episode about pluto except the moon instead of our own planet.
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Lagrange point station would be neat.
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