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I heard something to do with Nitrogen and …cow farts(?) I am really unsure of this and would like to learn more.

Answer -

4 Parts

  • Ethical reason for consuming animals
  • Methane produced by cows are a harmful greenhouse gas which is contributing to our current climate crisis
  • Health Reasons - there is convincing evidence that processed meats cause cancer
  • it takes a lot more calories of plant food to produce the calories we would consume from the meat.

Details about the answers are in the comments

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I guess my only follow up would be that if we reduce our meat consumption to a more sustainable level, that would mean that we would have to replace our protein source with something more sustainable.

Seafood maybe out of the question as I hear concerns about overfishing as it is.

I would assume that would leave plant protein, like Peanuts or something similar. Are there other sources of protein that are in development (Also major assumption that Beyond and those other meats are also based on the plant protein)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

well lab grown meat has just recently been approved for sell. So that's a major thing. But there are a lot of plant protein resources. I'm vegetarian so I eat eggs and some milk. (I actually prefer almond milk, most of my milk consumption probably comes from why protein powder cause I can't afford the plant protein powders for weight lifting). Now as someone who actually studied nutrition in college, the confusion comes from the fact that people don't factor amino acids. As my teacher said "You don't have a protein requirement, you have an amino acid requirement" once you look at it in this way, there are ways around this that we can do, but there are shortcomings as of right now (especially socio-economic) if you cut out eggs. However, it would be pretty easy to add the missing nutrients in other foods the issue comes from good ol classic capitalism issues of "efficiency and money" shit.

Honestly, some of the biggest problems we face is just a matter of focus and funding in research. There are a lot of solutions and it's honestly amazing how far we've come despite special interest groups (oil, farming trusts, etc) have worked to stunt the growth of things, so you just have to imagine what ecological, vegan, etc tech could do if it hand the same funding and backing as these other sectors. I honestly can't wait.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Meat is actually not a good source of protein compared to plant proteins. Meat was a good way of turning stuff we couldn’t eat into stuff we can, but now they just feed livestock grains anyways.

Lentils have waaaayyyyyy more protein to weight.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Lentils have waaaayyyyyy more protein to weight.

I'm not sure I understand you correctly, but lentils have ~20g protein per 100g while chicken has ~50g. Do you mean compared to grains?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Everything I can find says that lentils have waaaayyyy more protein. Maybe it’s the difference between cooked and dry? The water is going to add a lot of weight and zilch protein.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Lentils have waaaayyyyyy more protein to weight.

But they taste like lentils :-(

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

people have lots of different reasons. some don't like the idea of killing a big animal with feelings and expressiveness. some because of how farms abuse or torture animals in some countries. some think Anibal farming is worse for the environment. some have religious prohibitions. some think it's bad for your health. some people don't like the taste or can't afford it but don't want people to think they are weird so they tell people they have a principled argument for it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Agreed up until the last part. I think most people would accept "I don't like the taste" or "I can't afford it" sooner than a vegan argument. I've gotten some really unhinged reactions from people just by bringing the topic up. Veganism really, really triggers some people.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Thanks everyone for the answers, I will update the post to add in the answer.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Different vegetarians have different motives. Some of the more common ones include:

  • Moral concerns, e.g. about animals suffering or being killed. This is common among Buddhist vegetarians, animal-rights vegetarians, and utilitarian vegetarians.
  • Health concerns; belief that a vegetarian diet is better for one's health, whether due to substances naturally in meat (e.g. saturated fat) or introduced by industrial meat production.
  • Environment and climate concerns; that raising animals for meat is bad for the environment, contributes to climate change, is unsustainable, etc.
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