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I just can’t find a decent email client that looks like it’s from the last 20 years. Geary and Evolution both appear to be pretty modern but something about using Gmail with a Yubikey just doesn’t work and neither of them will connect to my account. Both on Fedora and OpenSUSE. Thunderbird works but it’s so old fashioned and Betterbird doesn’t look much better. What’s everyone else using?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Betterbird (Thunderbird fork) for pc, K-9 for phone.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Evolution, Thunderbird and KMail, depending on the system. Though I've had only trouble with Thunderbird and gpg signing with a yubikey. The others just work.

On Android I'm using FairMail.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Trying to get the hang of meli on my laptop & K-9 on (unGoogled) Android

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Protonmail web client and Android app tbh

For work it's obviously outlook

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

i fear your best bet really is just using thunderbird or a fork of it and messing with themes.

I did have the same reaction on my first instal of thunderbird but after customizing it a bit i’ve come to like it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I use eM, it has tons of options and the mail rules are next level.

https://www.emclient.com/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

No Linux version 😔

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I guess the question is, why do you need a client? I find most web interfaces to be sufficient, you can enable browser notifications, create an "app" so that it's in a stand-alone window, etc.

As another comment said, I just use the Proton web interface.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I was using Thunderbird, but I have had a number of issues with it. Crashing seems to happen whether I use the Flatpak or install from AUR.

I have switched back to using web clients for my mail for the time being.

[–] sun_is_ra 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I have never had thunderbird crash. Not questioning what you say but perhaps its sonsthing else? Did u try deleting thubderbird data and starting fresh ?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I am using debias as os , and never had a problem with thunderbird, did you used recently? I am not against web, but i manage 5 emails so no way the web is a option for me. Also i start to use the rss from thunder and is cool.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I'm using it on Windows at work and I was also surprised how often it just gets stuck. Deleting the database did help for some time, but then it came back every time I'm sending an email.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I wonder if it has to to with the email provider or something? It isn't fast for me but it gets the job done and is stable and predictable even with thousands of emails

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Mailspring, best client I've used in a while.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Agreed on Mailspring, especially if OP wants a modern interface (although I think the new Thunderbird looks fine).

The only thing missing from Mailspring for me is seeing what folders my emails are in when I run a search. Otherwise, it's the only non-CLI client I've found that let's me use the keyboard to select multiple emails and move them to a folder, something I do in Gmail. If anyone knows of others, let me know! I've tried Claws, Evolution, Geary, KMail, and Thunderbird in addition to Mutt and aerc in hopes of finding something to replace Gmail...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

Last time I tried it, it had major issues with folders (for example, folders didn't refresh often enough, and notifications weren't shown for emails that are sorted into folders). I tried to fix it myself, but gave up after I couldn't figure out why it wasn't syncing folders properly: https://github.com/Foundry376/Mailspring/pull/2308

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'm using Thunderbird.

On my work computers, I don't want the email to be stored locally since they back up the entire system to the cloud for retention and compliance purposes, so I'm using Roundcube (webmail app) hosted on the email server itself. I self-host my email server.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I’m using Evolution on Arch and Debian and works just fine for me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

mu4e+mbsync+msmtp

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

If anyone knows a client that can snooze mail on Proton and Gmail, I’d love to know about it. Until then I’m stuck using the web interfaces and their official phone apps.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

aerc with mbsync and msmtp and neovim for composing

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Do you use it for work or personal? I have aerc installed and working for my personal email, but I found it harder to sort through HTML emails as quickly as something like Gmail. I gave up on it after a couple days, but really liked the keyboard-centric workflow.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I don’t work but I use a script using w3m to print HTML as text. You can find those in the aerc repo.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Proton web and mobile client. Also thunderbird

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Don't know if this has been said but you are not supposed to use the yubikey on your mail client. Google recommends you use an application password for email clients. As someone who has 5 yubikeys for different services I know this sounds unsafe but is the only way I've been able to use some of the mail programs with Google. The other option would be to enable another 2fa (maybe auth codes with Yubico Authenticator) and use that on the mail programs.

For Google I ended up using web client and fido2 (and another yubikey as backup and another as auth code generator) and my work requires Outlook but they also ask me to change passwords each month and input them on different platforms that don't support f2 and that breaks a few things for me so I opted for Yubico Auth and use my yubikey instead of Microsoft Authenticator or Google Authenticator.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I'm lazy - just gmail pinned in a tab on my browser on my Linux desktop, the browser is always open anyway. Default mail client on iOS/iPadOS.

I've used Thunderbird in the past. The redesign was nice but it's still a bit cludgy to use somehow, compared to gmail web.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Thunderbird on my pc and the default ios app on my phone for my non proton mail email accounts I just use the proton mail website when I use my proton email

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I know it's not an answer you expect but I just use the official web client. I hate how there's 2+ sidebars and a lot of features I don't need in standalone clients. I just need inbox, spam, trash and probably search.

[–] atzanteol 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

A combination of thunderbird and mutt.

And bluemail on android...

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