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2024 could be world’s hottest year as June breaks records (www.straitstimes.com)

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

Hey ma, they're putting out the 'hottest on record' headline again! What're we up to now, 11 years in a row?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oh it's lovely when an otherwise fairly cold (or mild in the summer) eSStonia had experienced practically the highest temperatures in eu-cool these past 2 months on multiple occasions

[+] [email protected] -6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I issue you several billion pinnochios, one for every year since earth's actual hottest period when the air was like 3600f

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Temperature records from thermometers and weather stations exist only for a tiny portion of our planet's 4.54-billion-year-long life. By studying indirect clues—the chemical and structural signatures of rocks, fossils, and crystals, ocean sediments, fossilized reefs, tree rings, and ice cores—however, scientists can infer past temperatures.

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June 2024 was the hottest June on record, the European Union's climate change monitoring service said on July 8, continuing a streak of exceptional temperatures that some scientists said puts 2024 on track to be the world's hottest recorded year.

From the article

We don't exactly have records from millions or billions of years ago, so I don't know why you think this article is lying to you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We sort of do have so e idea when using the fossil records and core samples in ice. You can tell a lot about the atmospheric content an infer temperatures and rainfall.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

That's all well and good, I'm not trying to deny that those methods work, but booty was claiming that the article telling us this year is the hottest on record was a lie without any real clarification why he thought that.

So either he read the he only read the headline and wanted to feel smug about it, or he was trying to downplay the seriousness of the situation by saying it used to be worse millions or billions of years ago. I don't really care which, the outcome is the same either way.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago

most comically competent liberal

[+] [email protected] -10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I wonder where they are taking this information from. This seems to be the cited European Union's climate change monitoring service, but there is no such news item from July 8.

I can definitely say that this June was much colder than usual here in the north of Spain Spain. Lots of rain and low temperatures, it seems that summer is starting 1-2 months later than usual (similar to last year).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Every month since June 2023 – 13 months in a row – has ranked as the planet’s hottest since records began, compared with the corresponding month in previous years, the EU’s Copernicus Climate Change Service (C3S) said in a monthly bulletin.

From the second line of the article. Here's the monthly bulletin they're talking about.

Keep in mind that this is the global average temperature, there could be some places (like Northern Spain) that experienced lower temperatures.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's definitely been awful in the Eastern US so I believe it. The heat index in my house has been over 100 F almost every day for most of the past month or so