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[–] [email protected] 52 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I protest, I'm in a political party, I phone bank, I donate, I march, I vote, I post and make memes, what else do people want? What's the yellow guy doing besides whining and apparently not voting?

If you think the revolution is starting please kindly point me to my local resistance sign up station.

Internet leftists don't have any real plans of action for how to systematically fight facism, no strong political voices to rally behind. They talk about a General Strike as though one will just magically form on its own without planning, discussion, leadership, support networks, and so on.

Go touch some grass, then vote, then join people in your community and workplace who are actually organizing as a group to do something. No individual action will solve this crisis.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Thank you for your service

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

You summed up my thoughts except the fact is im not going to go out and kill folks even if the revolution has started but I might lay down my life.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You aren't wrong. TBF, it is a comic remarking at the broad ways our system directs us to feel and think. Comics typically aren't about nuanced discussion but rather a blunt point. Our political discourse driven by corporate media does focus on voting as the only systematic driver for change edit(as well as creating) a paralyzing despair. More MUST be put into the other levers of democracy, as you point out.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

If you do all of those things, then the comic isn't about you, is it? So why so defensive? 🤔

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Because the comic didn't mention those things, which are how you actually do some democracy in the face of hostile anti-democratic forces.

What point is the comic trying to make exactly? That voting isn't enough. What alternatives does it suggest? Nothing. It doesn't offer anything except a whining troll who seems to be encouraging a moralizing stance about the non-utility of voting with no alternatives. Almost like the point of this comic is to erode democratic ideas by making it seem like the only things people care about are voting and moralizing.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The fascists have systematically captured the system by religiously voting in every election over the past 50 years, and now that they are coming for you, you're going to criticize people who want to vote against them?

Fuck all the way off.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The comic isn't criticizing those who vote against fascism, it's critiquing those that think voting is enough to stop fascism.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's some pedantic bullshit. This comic is clearly designed to foster voter apathy by suggesting that voting is ineffective. It's part of the great lie that fascists have been using for a long time, that voting is pointless and you have no power. It's how they win elections.

The vast majority of free people have no interest in violent revolution, and if even half of non-voters decided to participate, fascists would never win another election. When they lose elections, fascists attempt to use force. But they are outnumbered.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Im sorry? It's not clear to me at all that this is advocating voter apathy. Can you explain how that's the case?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, because I do not believe you are discussing this in good faith. I've explained it to you already, and you're asking vague, obtuse questions. I'm going to stand on "fuck all the way off."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Ok then, I hope you get a chance to get a break from whatever is stressing you out soon

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

The yellow guy is the asshole here for sure.

Yelling and screaming that everything is terrible and voting won't help. He may be right, but the blue guy has done or suggested three things that he can do to help.

If yellow wants someone to take up arms and start popping politicians, he needs to be behind it enough to either start doing it himself, or at least come right out and say it.

He's smart enough to know there's a problem, but still too stupid to realize that complaining about what everyone else isn't doing is just as useless.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago

you’re going to criticize people who want to vote against them?

And how is the "vote fascism away" project going?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Especially when one will usher in a fascist dictatorship asap, while the other at least is a garden variety genocidal fart

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago

Voting is like wiping your ass. It's the minimum that you must do when everything goes right. Sometimes you need a plunger or a mop. Sometimes you end up calling the plumber, when some rascally toddler has flushed their toys.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

voting is the bare minimum. you need to vote and organize collective action.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Just vote! Pretty please! Oh what's that? You voted for Trump?! Oh noooooooo

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Voting is cool and all, but really why? Two parties suck. One is batshit loonie orange and the other is more of the same middle-right conservative old man politics.

The conclusion is the US will implode. Break apart, break up, whatever. The timeline is either imminently if orange man wins, or pretty soon if the white corpse wins.

Why would you choose to live in a failing empire? One that is set to fail completely now or almost now. The smart people have left. The biggest group of people purchasing multiple other citizenships and residencies outside the USA are Americans at this point. Those that see the writing on the wall.

The Jews that left Germany when the Nazi party was being democratically elected did not end up in concentration camps. Those that waited until their local world was on fire, were screwed and paid with their lives.

GTFO of the USA immediately if you can. If you can't, make that your priority. Life is so much better out of that hellhole anyways.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why would you choose to live in a failing empire

Last I checked, it's not much of a choice. You either have enough money and resources to fight your way to some other country, which is probably not further behind the US, or you don't, because you likely don't. Blaming victims is bullshit. Fact is, America is the third most populous country in the world and not even a sizable amount of them could reasonably leave.

Check your privilege, ffs

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago

Check your idiocy. Anyone can pack up and move, or move. If you want to move with airfare and all your shit, then be rich. Of you actually are leaving an oppressive regime, then you go. There are countries that will grant Americans political asylum.