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OoTL... instances versus communities versus magazines (self.outoftheloop)

submitted 2 years ago by lnm225 to c/[email protected]

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I get the concept of the Fediverse.. and signed up/in on the sh.itjust instance (only to be defederated by Beehaw, but I digress)

Wtf are "magazines"? What did I miss???

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Magazines (kbin) and Communities (Lemmy) are the naming conventions for the group type of posts offered - like subreddits. Magazines and Communities are effectively the same thing, just different naming conventions from their different backbone software running on the instance.

Instances are the full server in which the communities and users are held. Like sh.itjust.works is an instance - it’s the page where you can log into in order to then interact with anything both housed within your instance as well as the greater fediverse (barring any defederated instances, as you mentioned).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Magazines are, broadly speaking, what lemmy calls communities

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I thought kbin calls them magazines and lemmy calls them communities

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Yep. Magazines are kbin things, and they're the equivalent of the things that lemmy calls communities

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Dont worry about beehaw. They're irrelevant now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why is that? I'm subscribed to some interesting communities at Beehaw.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wouldn't call them irrelevant, but after they de-federated from the two other biggest mainstream general instances, they are (for now) irrelevant to a huge number of Lemmy users. So even if you can post there, a huge number of users can't reply

If you want to see Lemmy as one large network, Beehaw have broken them selves off from a large part of that network. Of course Lemmy isn't really just one big network, but also many small networks, like extremist instances that are already de-federated from mainstream instances.

Beehaw has explicitly set out to create a safe space for their users. This is not necessarily compatible with a more wild-west approach of open signups. Their 4 admins/moderator were simply swamped by bad actors from sh.itjust.works and Lemmy.world, so for now they de-federated pending better moderation tools

Of course it's well within their right to do so, but as an outsider I'm now much more wary of building anything in their walled garden, in case they decide to close it off further

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Beehaw has defederated from almost 400 instances, not just the the 2 you mentioned.

https://beehaw.org/instances

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Magazines is just what they call communities/subreddits on kbin. Instances is the server/site those communities/magazines are made in

As for beehaw... just stay away from communities made there for now regardless of your instance, because you won't be able to interact with a major portion of users in those communities (those of us from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Just a thing on kbin I think

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