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However, Lo of FoodID said that the study is indicative of broader problems. He said consumers believe the antibiotic-free meat industry is “trust, but verify,” but that it’s actually more “don’t ask, don’t tell.”

"Our perspective is the research and the paper highlight a systemic issue — it’s not about one farmer, rancher, retailer or restaurant chain,” he said.

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Additionally, the use of antibiotics isn’t great for human health, because it leads to bacteria becoming more resistant to antibiotics designed to kill them, said Price. Antibiotic resistance leads to higher medical costs for humans, prolonged hospital stays and increased numbers of deaths.

Some beef ‘raised without antibiotics’ tests positive for antibiotics in study

(this includes those that were supposedly certified by independent organizations)

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Been 5 days into it and going strong! Although my body is still adapting.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

Woo woo, keep it up ☺️.

https://vegan.com/info/information/ Some useful info in case you need it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I'm vegetarian but keep my own chickens for my eggs as the only animal products I have is that acceptable?

[–] Shampiss 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You decide. Please do whatever is healthy to you and Minimize your carbon production as best as you can.

Going vegan is not right for everyone. With any vegan/vegetarian diet it's important to make sure you're eating enough proteins, iron and vitamin C. These are the 3 main components of meat that are not found on most common vegetables.

Please take care of yourself, pay attention to your diet and consult with a nutritionist if you feel indisposed after switching to a new diet.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Vitamin C

Huh? Good sources of Vitamin C are pretty much only plants? The reason sailors got scurvy was due to a meat heavy diet

It's not just citrus that has that. It's a wide range of plants from broccoli to kiwi to red pepper to potatoes, etc.

[–] Shampiss 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes, fruits. But not vegetables overall. Animal skin has vitamin C. So it's possible to acquire it with a meat diet depending on what you eat.

Of course you can fill this gap with citrus fruits. C it's not a big problem nowadays since there are fruits easily available. Historically tribes that lived in ICU areas had to eat the animal skin and organs to have enough vitamins. Maybe that part was too specific and unnecessary

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

I listed multiple vegetables there? There's plenty more too like brussel sprouts, kale, parsley. Many are actually even higher than citrus like brocoli

In practice, people are only really getting it from plants. Technically possible doesn't mean that's actually what happens

Although vitamin C can be obtained from the consumption of fresh meat, it is destroyed by heating and is more typically obtained from plant sources

https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/5/9/3424

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Let them be. If you want chicken friends to take care of that's fine, but you don't need to eat their menstruations.. That's weird.

Normally on sanctuaries they give them hormones to help prevent them from having so many ovulations. It's not healthy or normal for them to have as many as they do. Humans have bread them into a state that runs their bodies ragged.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Arguably though, if you give them those hormones its just fucking weird and not immoral.

Plus its not like chickens don't eat their own eggs, any one who's owned then can tell you what happens the moment one of them gets cracked.

Arguably the whole act of eating is yicky. As long as the food is good for you and doesn't taste bad does it matter how weird the source is? Especially when not everyone has enough to eat?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Raising egg-laying birds still have some not so great consequences in terms of their bone health. It takes a lot of calcium to make eggs. In the wild, many of them will actually eat some of their own eggs to regain the calcium they lose

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Well we didn't add antibiotics directly to the meat so that counts, right?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Antibiotics free?

Wrong. Free antibiotics!