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I don't know if you've noticed this, but threads or comments about Lemmy or the Fediverse get downvoted a lot on Reddit and trolls who claim that it's "dogshit" and "not going anywhere" get systematically upvoted.

Some of those trolls get then exposed when you ask them what Lemmy instance they tried and one of them with whom I had a surreal exchange answered with something like "yeah ofc I used Lemmy, this is the instance: join-lemmy.org" 🤦‍♂️

It's frustrating that these trolls keep contributing to the big lie that "Lemmy is not ready yet" and that there's "no viable alternative to Reddit".

This and the overwhelming number of comments being "against the mod protests" just prompts me to question whether there isn't some brigading being organized straight from the Reddit HQ.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well as long as people are talking about Lemmy, that's good for us. Any publicity is good publicity.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Kind of. I'm glad that I'm not seeing quite so much of "they're all a bunch of tankies over there". I make sure to mention both Lemmy and Kbin when I'm mentioning alternatives as an attempt to head that one off at the pass a bit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It wouldn't surprise me, a lot of people don't care or just aren't interested in change.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

“Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you”

Honestly, it would not shock me if Reddit HQ was amplifying these comments. They are going to do everything they can to ensure that their IPO goes well. All we can hope for is for someone to blow the whistle.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

As long as they do it on Reddit I really don‘t care anymore. Probably with the IPO Reddit will run all sorts of "opinion forming" bots and ban dissidents and so on to make sure they seem like they got the community behind them.

I just hope they leave us alone here and mostly anti-spez people come to form new communities here.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_ 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's definitely corpo sockpuppets and bots involved, some of which have even straight up posted AI bot warnings about not being able to generate offensive content (oops!) but there's plenty of ignorant people too.

That said, I'm kind of OK with them staying on reddit because people like that had been making reddit progressively worse for years and years at it gained popularity. Hopefully the relative obscurity of Lemmy will prevent that from happening for a while yet.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s frustrating that these trolls keep contributing to the big lie that “Lemmy is not ready yet” and that there’s “no viable alternative to Reddit”.

That's not frustrating at all! That's GOOD! It's proof they see Lemmy as a threat, and right now, it is!

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

My two cents: good! Let the shitty people stay on reddit. I'm loving the respectful communities here on lemmy, and don't really want those clowns coming over and messing it up for us.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This place is becoming an echo chamber.

I don't doubt that there are bots in the comments on Reddit (as if that can even be disputed) but pretending like nobody could possibly just not be interested in moving to lemmy is wrong. There's lots of teething troubles here still which need to be resolved before most people will consider it. Whinging about astroturfing comment sections isn't gonna make dankmemes or pcmasterrace come to lemmy.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I came here to look to see if this topic was covered. I just checked my mod queue and every single post made by my automod OR other users about Lemmy was reported multiple times for "harassment" with 40+ down votes as well. I've literally never had a full mod queue that was more than 6 things before and I had 30 or more posts to approve with 3 being actual things. What the fuck.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Wouldn't be surprised at all if it's reddit themselves reporting and downvoting posts with bots. Spez doesn't have a clean track record after all.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Wouldn't care to be honest. Let reddit be shit, all sorts of slander origi ate from there anyway.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It was a matter of time. They'll give us a stupid name to refer to us from now on soon enough too.

[–] SickIcarus 4 points 1 year ago
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Let them stay there then. We can't force people to join us here. If they choose to believe those kind of brigading comments then they do not have the level of critical thinking to become a meaningful contributor to any site. Those who wanted to move have already moved. Those remaining there are those who chose to ignore the issue, or support reddit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I reckon it's mostly bots set up by Reddit admins and sad-sack mods who consider Reddit moderation to be a full-time job

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah it's good that this type of comments are being left there and not here.
Also I don't think is a good idea that an user that's looking for reddit 2 comes to lemmy or kbin just to shit on it cause is not reddit 2.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the majority of those people just don't care and are against change.

I can say that to the non-technical person, Lemmy would be a bit confusing due to having to pick a server. However, once you get past that point, Lemmy is a perfectly viable alternative to Reddit, as long as the user base remains active.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I went to have a look back in United Kingdom sub and seemed even more right wing and.thw think-tank bots paid posts than normal.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Dunno if you were around then, but people on Digg acted the same way toward Reddit before Digg crashed.

If we stay on this platform and continue to grow and create content, then when Reddit again does something to annoy its years (they probably will), we can be here to take advantage.

The downside is that every great growth in users will affect the platform/site culture, not always for the better. It depends on the users and the size of the migration.

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