Actually, it's a lot better to dig, free radiation shield!
this post was submitted on 16 May 2024
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Mood debuff from the game Rimworld where if you spend too long without going outside, you get a severe penalty.
In other words, being underground for long (or indefinite) periods would probably have a profoundly negative effect on people's moods.
That’s why it is important to do sociological testing on earth first. Putting groups of humans in, let’s call them vaults, to test reactions to isolation and lack of surface contact.
Yes, yes and then we do experiments on them without their knowledge to gauge how they react as opposed to control vaults. We should also name this department something fitting. Since they're working on new technologies with vaults maybe something like.. Vault-tec
I see, what's the mood debuf for radiation poisoning? :)
Depending on the severity the mood should switch back to zero rather quickly
Ironically, it's called toxic buildup and it can be less than being underground :)
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My plan is to use concentrated sunlight to tunnel directly through an asteroid and use the material to build a small O'Neill cylinder inside. The rest of the rock would provide radiation shielding so the cylinder would be cheaper to construct, and we can send sunlight into the cylinder from either end using the same mirrors we carved the asteroid with.
https://poorlydrawnstore.com/products/our-future-in-space-print
In case you're like my space friends who want this as a poster
How did you get friends from space?
Met one on an airplane, actually
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Um, acktually, we should build long-term Lunar and Martian habitats underground (lava tubes would work nicely) to protect from solar and interstellar radiation.
It's so ridiculous. We can do that at home. There's literally no point in living in Mars. No air no gravity, no radiation protection. Even if we make the air here radioactive and the water poisonous, at least there's air and water.
It's not like this makes up for everything else, but there is gravity on Mars
There's also water and air, just not anywhere close to the amounts we want.
We need that terraforming exercise to eventually leave the solar system though. Stars don't live indefinitely. But we probably have to grow up first and try in a couple of centuries.
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... I don't get this comic. Is it satirical, or is it just not saying anything?
Seems to be making the point that it would be kind of dumb to spread across the solar system just making the other planets just as messed up as what we are currently doing on Earth.
There's not so much to mess up on, say, Mars. I mean the terrain is interesting in its way but it's not like we'd be annihilating complex ecosystems like we are here on earth. We would have to establish significant ecosystems anywhere we settled, in fact.
Honestly making all our corporate bullshit buildings on other barren planets would be way better than acting like a cancer on the ecosystem on earth. If we manage to become space fairing, I hope they can restore earth and reduce our spread on it. We don't need concrete jungles.
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It is funny. I am not sure why or why the why matters
The joke is that Venus is special.
Do you not like balloons?
What is saying is that our style of life is stupid and boring compared to our ambitions. It's why I don't bother traveling. Little bit of different geography and I'm still just hanging out inside for comfort and amenities.
This kind of thing is why I'm most interested in abstractions and stuff like dancing.
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Lol, we ain't making it off earth, especially not Venus
Ironically, between Venus' earth-like gravity and high atmospheric density, it might actually be easier to build cloud colonies on Venus than ground colonies on Mars.
Except that venus is just absolutely hostile to everything
Nah, we just need to crash Mercury into the surface of Venus, get the rotation sorted out and a moon going. After that, buildings.
Now you bring this home, add some broth, a potato, baby, you've got a stew going.
Yep, yet it's my understanding that it'd be easier to colonize Venus than Mars. Venus is closer, Venus' gravity is similar to Earth's, the air is extremely dense which means balloons would be very effective, iirc Venus has more opportunities for inter-planetary transit, high-altitude temperatures (where the balloons would float) are more similar to Earth's, etc.
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Yeah what would be the benefit to colonies Venus vs just living in space? Gravity?
I think the theory is that it proves that ones favorite -ism that starts with c- is objectively superior to ones least favorite -ism that starts with c-.
That's why balloons! You can have sick blimps on Venus and IIRC you can capture atmospheric gasses to burn as fuel for them and to create water too.
In the long term, it's also possible to alter the atmosphere on Venus until it's approximately the same as Earth. It would be a massive undertaking, but a hell of a lot easier than getting Mars to a comfortably habitable state. And you could potentially get an entire habitable planet out of the deal, which would be nice.
Kurzgesagt had an interesting video on the topic.
Obviously it would take a significant investment of resources that would benefit some future generation, but not our own. So, back to being impossible, at least for now.
Right cause getting food/oxygen/water is so easy while in fucking hot air balloons.
They've come up with a way they could do it. I dunno why you're mad about that, I was just wanting to share an interesting tidbit I'd learned.
My understanding is that the reason why scientists like playing with the idea is that it's more feasible than it immediately seems, and it'd solve some of the issues that a Mars colony would have (increased solar radiation due to low atmospheric density and weak electromagnetic field as well at very low gravity).
Would it be expensive? Yeah. We're talking about colonizing another planet though. It already is going to cost hundreds of billions if not trillions to do.
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I remember reading some old sci-fi that thought Venus was going to be paradise. The next earth.
Then they found out how awful it really was.
Yeah, lot of "Alien from venus!!" stuff. Too bad all the planets and moons are FAR from hospitable, we'd be better off fixing our own planet than trying to build a new one from scratch
Yeah but people and corporations would have to change and that's too difficult instead we should do something easy like colonize another planet. /s
Most vermin on this planet reflexively build nests all over the place to accommodate population growth. Its a sickness
Human bad
There. Saved you a few words
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