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Links to the bill text

Current version of the bill

Any of the following are exempted from the provisions of G.S. 14-12.7, 14-12.8,21 14-12.9, 14-12.10 and 14-12.14:

  1. Any person or persons, as members or members elect of a society, order or organization, engaged in any parade, ritual, initiation, ceremony, celebration or requirement of such society, order or organization, and wearing or using any manner of costume, paraphernalia, disguise, facial makeup, hood, implement or device, whether the identity of such person or persons is concealed or not, on any public or private street, road, way or property, or in any public or private building, provided permission shall have been first obtained therefor by a representative of such society, order or organization from the governing body of the municipality in which the same takes place, or, if not in a municipality, from the board of county commissioners of the county in which the same takes place.

  2. ~~Any person wearing a mask for the purpose of ensuring the physical health or safety of the wearer or others.~~

ITT: How the right shifts goalposts and gaslights the left

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

The bill was created to crack down on the KKK originally. I'm not seeing any sources that it creates an exception for them. Come on, let's not be like the right and just make shit up.

[–] Ashyr 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, my first thought is what's the source. I wouldn't put it past any GOP legislature to do this, but I came to the comments explicitly looking for a source.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Post has just been updated. It doesn't explicitly exempt the KKK, but it does provide exemptions for organisations' parades, rituals, initiations, ceremonies, celebrations, or general requirements. It also explicitly permits hoods under this exemption.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

after obtaining permission

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

On what legal basis would the KKK not be given permission?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I second this, but it's not obvious from the first glance

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The KKK typically files the proper paperwork for their demonstrations and parades in advance. Under what circumstances do you envision them being denied permission to wear their hoods during a permitted demonstration without gifting a first amendment victory to the Klan?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I was under the wrong impression that it's actually banned in the US, but it is not, from wiki:

As of 2016, the Anti-Defamation League puts total KKK membership nationwide at around 3,000, while the Southern Poverty Law Center puts it at 6,000 members total.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This is a huge stretch. This is a misleading post and you should delete it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

It still isn't a stretch. The KKK aren't routinely rejected for parade applications in regions they're active, they basically just need to add a line about wearing hoods to their application.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah I was drunk and read it as though it were OP.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Come on, let’s not be like the right and just make shit up

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, because only the KKK wears hoods, so this just has to be about them and nothing else. Besides…. Aren't you conveniently omitting the part where societies and organizations have to obtain permission? What the fuck, man. Let's not delve into the same “reading slightly wrong to produce outrage” BS we love to criticize the right-wing fearmongers for.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah this is classic rage bait bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But still, forbid me to wear a mask if I feel under the weather is also bullshit. I understand that it's better to stay home when ill, but realistically it's not always possible

When masks were enforced during the pandemic I thought it was finally going to become the norm to wear a mask if you catch a cold. It was not, it appears, public health is less important than total surveillance

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

I'm not disagreeing with that point. I just don't like the bullshit that people make up for rage bait

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

ITT: How the right shifts goalposts and gaslights the left

Everyone in this thread has been leftists asking you to not make us look bad by posting this kind of stuff when there's no actual substance behind it.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Everyone in this thread has been leftists

I hope that's not the case, cause that's even worse.

@ShunkW says "I’m not seeing any sources" despite the Twitter handle where the receipts are available included in the image. They did no investigation, and they assume the pictured poster is making things up.

I update the post-text with a direct link to the twitter post, which includes a link to where the removed footage was, and has further documentation of how outrageous this is, link the bill, current bill text, and quote a relevant passage.

@ShunkW doubles down, pretends nothing has changed, and links an article that doesn't validate anything they've claimed.

Even you agree that @ShunkW has terrible reading comprehension. Maybe you should give this a second look, rather than backing someone who has demonstrated an alarming lack of media literacy.

The text and changes to the bill is substantially outrageous, but the missing video implies there's even more substance being buried.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Just to be sure, your source for the government making exceptions for and siding with the KKK... Is a Twitter post with a removed video?

Well I saw a Facebook post that had an interview that was taken down but that interview said otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

provided permission shall have been first obtained therefor by a representative of such society, order or organization from the governing body of the municipality in which the same takes place, or, if not in a municipality, from the board of county commissioners of the county in which the same takes place.