If you're in lemmy and not using Firefox, then something is wrong
this post was submitted on 18 Jun 2023
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I get that you expect the general public of Lemmy to be technically versed, but reddit refugees don't always have your mindset.
Firefox is not really complex actually
No but the user base is more technical on average. Not sure why.
Plase, tell me more on how someone like me, that has been using Firefox for almos 20 years and then switched to a Chromium browsers because of all Mozilla's fuckups is doing something wrong. And yes, I'm technically very well versed. I just don't want to spend my time fixing Mozilla's bullshit and I unilaterally decided that they don't deserve me as a user.
Just use whatever you like. If Firefox is good for you, fine. Enjoy it, until it lasts, as Mozilla seems to be hell-bent on destryoing it.
I can understand the frustrations, Mozilla don't get everything right.
But personally I much prefer their ecosystem to Chromiums. Chormium is compromised by Google's control. The google driven Manifest V3 controversy around adblockers, and the FLoC privacy concerns are good examples of this.
Also there are only 3 major broswer engines left: Webkit, Blink and Gecko. Webkit and Blink are ultimately controlled & influenced by big tech corporations driven by commerical priorities including advertising, while Gecko is independent.
I'm not suggesting that is enough in itself. I do honestly personally like Firefox, but it certainly makes me much more forgiving of it when I consider the alternatives.
Firefox has rarely let me down in the 10-ish years I've been using it.
Chrome lost me completely when they announced the plan to change the browser's framework so that it would no longer be possible to block ads. Google is currently delaying the release but it will come someday.
I totally forgot why I switched to Firefox, but yup that was it
I'm not touching anything google with a 10m pole... Chrome will not end up on any of my systems.
Chromium or forks of that would be ok I guess. But I'll stick to FireFox.
Firefox all the way. Three versions in daily use here.
In terms of privacy, then Firefox wins. Performance probably goes with Chrome, but not as much as it used to be to be a real concern for most users. Firefox has improved itself on performance over the years. Also, Firefox isn't planning on crippling its extensions to the extent that it affects the quality of ad-blockers, etc.
Better? That's tough. I think it comes down to preference and options. I've been using Firefox for ages. It's flexible and fast. It's the only meaningful competition to the Chrome universe. I'm used to the aesthetic and love it. YMMV.
@cronch_mcgurk
You forgot to add that #Firefox don't spy on is, don't sell our personal data too. And it is secure too.
@ctrl
Better at what?
But yeah it's shitty Chrome because it's shiny, always highly adopted and implements the new fancy stuff that hasn't been even introduced into the spec.
Firefox is the morally right choice so. Not a memory hog, is stable and robust. Has all the Extensions you need and is overall really pleasent.
Sadly for some reason widevine doesn't run with it and always crashes on my machine thus I have to use chrome to watch/listen DRM streams.
Didn't Chrome break add blocking? Or did they change their mind?
Still Firefox has add-ons in mobile and it works great, even if you mainly use it on desktop the UI feels better
I see no reason to use chrome over Firefox unless you really need it.
I haven't used it in years unless it's for something really quick at work but everyone complains that is a memory hog (using more memory isn't bad, but leaving other programs without it kinda is)
Firefox is the last bastion for defending user rights (see the whole manifest v3 saga).
If it wasn't the amazing browser it still is, I'd still pick Firefox for that sole reason.
Plus, did I say it's amazing already?
It depends on your criteria, but in general certainly Firefox.
I've tried a few different browsers over the years but I always seem to end up coming back to Firefox because of its customisability. I'm not especially bothered about speed, I'm very happy to bog my browser down with more addons than I care to admit to, and leave a ridiculous number of tabs open. No other browser even comes close to allowing me to do such silly things.
It's sort of subjective. In terms of performance in the real world use cases there is not much difference. However some sites may be broken or say they don't work with firefox ( this is usually not true they generally work ). There are a few compatibility issues but they are very rare. In terms of privacy, the ability to tinker, and customization It is just far better IMO.
@ctrl depends on what you need. If you need extremely high performance or the newest cutting-edge features, you're better with chrome. If you favor privacy and customizability (including AdBlocking) you should use Firefox.
I used chrome for quite a while, since Firefox didn't support WebXR, but now I switched back to Firefox. I've had a few more performance problems on Firefox, including crashes, but only rarely.
This isn't a very productive argument.
Google is evil, Google writes code to create Chromium. Google builds Chrome on Chromium - therefore Chrome is evil.
Firefox is Good.
Which one is better?
That all depends on whether you want the entire internet to be owned by Google...
I find Firefox is good to use, and if it fails (for example, to give me microphone access in Translate) then I do the job in a Chrome webapp.
Firefox should be default, and keep Chrome in reserve for some things that won't run in Firefox - simple.
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