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Ontario to ban use of cellphones in school classrooms starting in September (toronto.ctvnews.ca)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Ontario is introducing a suite of measures that will crack down on cellphone use and vaping in schools.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

How are we going to enforce these?

Because you already can't vape in schools, and it's been possible for boards to ban cellphones, but teachers don't have the backing of administration and they're certainly not protected from liability.

If I were a teacher knowing that if I were to bust little Johnny for TikToking in class or vaping in the washroom, I'd have to face a belligerent student and/or angry parents and the principal, superintendant and ministry would hang me out to dry, I wouldn't bother.

This is just another Ford government way to put the public sector in a lose-lose position so that they can, in this case, start out a voucher system run by private-sector buddies.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Sask Apprenticeship and Trade Certification Commission has a similar policy of no electronic devices in the classroom. They can be outside the classroom during breaks(of which there are many). You’re allowed to have them on you, and leave class to take or make a call if you consider it important enough, just can’t have them out in the classroom. While it would have been nice sometimes to have access to network connected devices to supplement the classes, I can also understand the arguments around privacy, and distraction particularly among children/teens.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I'm surprised it took this long. Cellphones should be placed in lockers or into classroom size cellphone holder/chargers that many schools use when they enter class if they are not asked to keep it in their lockers all day, save lunch.

Surprised by some of the comments, def not teachers but sound like folks who might die if you were to separate them from their phones.

Cellphones in classrooms are a problem and shouldn't be allowed whether that's 100% enforceable or not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

How a Connecticut middle school won the battle against cellphones https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/05/01/school-cellphones-confiscate/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This is gonna be one of those laws that we have but never use. This just doesnt seem possible to me I see teachers on their phones in classes sometimes. I know they are adults but you think teenagers are gonna think the same lol

[+] [email protected] -22 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I get the vaping ban, but banning smartphones is one of the stupidest bullshit I've ever heard. There's an underfunded public education system, but no- the problem is clearly those damn smartphones. Fucking conservatives man...

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (2 children)

We already have this in France, up to around 14-15 yo. Banned in school altogether.

Guess what, the kida are okay with that.

Also, banning it "in classrooms" seems like a given, do you use your steam deck in the classroom? If no then why your phone.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

I agree. Teachers are ALREADY trying to stop kids using cellphones in class, this just gives tools to do so.

If a student breaks the rules, their cellphone should be immediately surrendered to a staff members and parents will be notified.

[–] blargbluuk 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why is this the stupidest bullshit? I'm honestly surprised this wasn't already a thing in schools

[+] [email protected] -10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I had mind numbingly boring classes when I was in school. Why were they boring in the first place? Cuz the curriculum was stupid/the teachers weren't that good. The solutions to both problems are by increasing the education budget.

I also had teachers who were so amazing that noone was distracted. My point is, kids don't use phones in classes for absolutely no reason. Kids do that cuz the classes are shite. Fix the classes and the kids won't use their phones.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You may not have but many people get involved in drama and have OCD about knowing everything and responding immediatly, for those types they can't put the phone down even with the best twachwr present.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Then that's a disorder that they need to be taught how to deal with. They won't stop doing this when they get out of school, no? Isn't school the best place to teach them how to deal with it? You know... Cuz it's school... Where teaching is supposed to happen...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Mental health "schooling" should be part of learning, but it currently isn't and reinforcing OCD/anxiety disorders by allowing it makes it worse. Its why you also see the kids with the parent that is constantly in touch and rescuing creating a child that can't function on their own because they have never had to sit with uncomfortableness. People stopped learning distress tolerance by natural methods

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

When I was in high school, if you got caught using your cell phone in class, you got it taken away and your parents had to come pick it up. Has this changed?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

When I was in highschool (early '10s) I remember successfully arguing that since laptops were allowed in class we should be allowed to use our phones for schoolwork too. Whether that was actually good is debatable. I did actually type the majority of my work on my phone but I also wasted a lot of time screwing around, although the same could be said for the computer lab and I'm sure it would've been the same if I ever had a laptop.

(One note, apparently the school I went to was kind of weird, and only half your classes were actually lessons by your own teacher. Generally all devices were restricted during those classes, with limited exceptions on a teacher-by-teacher basis.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Lol cellphones and pagers were for drug dealers! /s

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Do you know how many problems teachers have with cellphones in the call rooms? Kids are just texting each other and are distracted in class. The teachers cannot take them away anymore and kids just react out if told to do something. It's a gong show, at least teachers have a way to enforce this now. It doesn't affect their use out of class just during class. And it's still up to teachers discretion to allow it in class at times.