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[–] [email protected] 94 points 4 months ago (5 children)

As a trans person, if either of them had enough estrogen to make any sort of meaningful impact on someone’s body, trans women would be drinking a gallon a day.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

Lmao you're right.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

still waiting for my soy to kick in :( is it supposed to take years?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

As proud as we all are of you and your brave transition which is just so relevant right now, we have actual clinical data and decades and decades of observational data that says is does have a meaningful impact on someone's body.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I am a half, to a gallon per day milk drinker, and I still had to take estrogen to grow boobs.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I know it’s pendantic as fuck, but I’m gonna be that person.

It’s affect, not effect.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I have to ask, because my non-native speaking ass thought you were wrong for a moment. Context aside, it "affects" the body and therefore "has an effect on" the body, right?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Bingo. Affect is a verb, effect is a noun.

Edit: English is silly and I'm a fool for thinking I had so much as a foothold on the wall of mastery of my native language.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Plot twist: they are both verbs and nouns, but the noun affect only gets used in psychology

From wiktionary:

“New governing coalitions have effected major changes” indicates that major changes were made as a result of new governing coalitions.

“New governing coalitions have affected major changes” indicates that before new governing coalitions, major changes were in place, and that the new governing coalitions had some influence over those existing changes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Or a conspicuous and intentional habit (I guess that’s psychological, but it’s not a technical term) like a fake accent/limp.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Find some random chemical in plants that shares a functional group with adrenaline or something. Call it phytoadrenaline. Boom you just turned every crossfit bro into a worshiper of soy apparently.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

I am literally gonna do this.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Bold to assume I’m not a plant

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Bold that we assumed that you weren't

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

...

Can we...

Can we eat them?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

I think, morally, we have to to

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (4 children)

The soy thing is just a dumb meme right? I'm having trouble imagining a person stupid enough to actually have that concern.

(Just to clarify so no one infers bad intent behind my question, I do think veganism is cool and good.)

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

That's by far not the worst theorie i heard.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

This is where Joe Rogan style insecure flat earthers get the term soy boy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I’ve personally had someone say that to me about soy milk.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I mean it does seem to contain phytoestrogens which are plant based molecules that act as estrogens so no but I really doubt it would have a noticeable effect.

It also wouldn't surprise me if the phytoestrogens get denatured when cooked. (I do not know what phytoestrogens look like chemically, please correct me if I'm wrong about them likely being denatured)

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

So what you're saying is I really gotta step up my milk intake for knockoff hrt? Noted

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

I'm seeing a lot of this on nearly every single [email protected] post, but:

Please report any comments breaking Rule 2 of this community: no omni / carnist apologists.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This cites no sources or anything, so take it with a grain of salt, but this is just an excellent headline: Chinese man grows breasts after eating chicken

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Farmer here, I can explain this. After eating chicken breasts, the seeds passed through his digestive system. When he pooped outside, the breast seeds went on the soil encased in a natural fertilizer. Most people go straight to a toilet, and since breasts can't grow there they never really think about the possibility of growing breasts after eating chicken.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I don't think you understood the headline. It's temporal, not casual. More a kind of "slice of life" article. First he eats the chicken, then he grows breasts - presumably the usual way of buying breast seeds, since these days most chicken breasts are GMO and don't yield fertile seeds.

The real tragedy is the apparent spontaneity of the decision, so he probably didn't graft onto the right chicken roots too get the plumpest growth.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

It's sad there is no picture of him.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

"doesn't affect your body" is false - it just has different effects

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

It's part of their culture. Don't take their culture away from them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Damn. I never thougth about this, but have you ever noticed that this kind of memes are basically a one huge strawman fallacy? No offence OP, just a sudden thought.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (3 children)

How is this a straw man? I've literally had people tell me they don't want to eat soy because of the estrogen, while they eat cheese and dairy products.

[–] Soulg 9 points 4 months ago

They're dumb, soy is great

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

My dad literally refuses to touch soy because of this. Yet he dines on dairy products. It’s not a strawman. It’s straight up relatable.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How dare I post vegan memes in the vegan community right?

All the fucking carnists in the comments with their meatsplaining have nothing better to do.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Nah there are people genuinely out there spouting this, unfortunately a former friend of mine has become a tate/rogan person and this is one of the weird things spread around in those circles.

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