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Did the year zero never exist ? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Please explain my confused me like I'm 5 (0r 4 or 6).

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Can i state the obvious reflect on if this question even makes sense?

We are currently the 2024 year since we began counting and probably didn't do so from day 1. Instead we took a significant cultural event and marked it the beginning. Adapting any initial time keeping to it.

We centered the beginning of this count on the life of someone who we cant proof ever existed. Great start.

we have likely been tracking sun cycles from much before but we cant exactly call our time keeping records reliable scientific measurements. Different civilizations and cultures had different ideas, may dispute data and eventually all had to make way for the teaching of the church.

There is no year 0, the calendar is a construct of time But doesn’t keep nor measure it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

One nitpick, Jesus was almost certainly a real figure. There are many records indicating someone with that name was in the area at the time, and that they were executed by crucifixion.

The religious stuff, obviously no way to prove. But as a person, the historical consensus is they existed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

One nitpick, Jesus was almost certainly a real figure. There are many records indicating someone with that name was in the area at the time, and that they were executed by crucifixion.

No there isn't. There's tons of people who've claimed they've found records but ultimately none of them can be produced or are based on other accounts like Josephus who doesn't ever directly reference Jesus. Further none of his original writing survived. Only reproductions, and the earliest one is from 11th century. Or Tacitus who was born after Jesus was dead. So no direct knowledge or evidence of Jesus as a individual, just a second hand accounting at best. Oh and also, no originals exist. Just copies dated back to the 11th century...

All "evidence" only starts 1000 years after Jesus actually lived... supposedly written by people who were born after Jesus died... and would have written that stuff 50-100 years after his death.

There is no actual archaeological evidence that "Jesus" existed. And a mere 3 references that exist outside of the bible that I'm aware of. All of which are not original manuscripts.

Edit: All of this to say, there is no consensus... and to claim there is consensus on the matter is a christian/catholic claim. Not an actual historical consensus.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Zero doesn't even exist so how would year zero.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I’m no expert but I assume that the year Christ died would be “year zero” (assuming you’re talking about anno Domini (AD) and before Christ (BC)) since we started counting after that.

EDIT: reading more on the topic I might be completely incorrect with my above statement. If someone else knows, please do correct me

EDIT 2: I found this on Wikipedia which talks about a “year zero”

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