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But the ritual of choosing the jury got off to a slow start as more than half of the first group of 96 potential jurors raised their hands to say they could not be fair to Mr. Trump, demonstrating the challenges of picking an impartial panel in a city where the defendant is widely loathed. The judge immediately excused them.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't know if I trust the awareness or judgment of a juror who could say they either aren't aware of Trump or are aware but aren't biased for or against. He's very famous and very divisive.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (2 children)

They aren't booting people for being aware of him — any American with a functional brain is.

They are dismissing people who say they won't be fair to him. It's possible to like or dislike somebody and still decide a case based on the facts of the matter. I believe the E Jean Carrol case had jurors who had voted for Trump, and they found him liable all the same.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Fair. I'm mostly poking fun at the fact that, at least in my experience, there are exceptionally few people who have had anything approaching a neutral stance about Trump since 2016. The article noted "the challenges of picking an impartial panel in a city where the defendant is widely loathed".

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So they will end up with liar Trump supporters being chosen saying they can be impartial.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

It's a possibility. What will happen later in the selection process is that the lawyers for both sides will ask additional questions of potential jurors, and see if they can find reason to believe they might be biased. They'll get to toss out anybody were they can show bias, and a remove some number of jurors because they just feel like it. Eventually, there will be 12 jurors and a few alternates chosen.

[–] ThrowawayPermanente 21 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Wait, are there cities where he isn't widely loathed?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] ThrowawayPermanente 3 points 7 months ago

They deserve each other

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Buncha poor rural towns who think a New York fraudster born into wealth understand their plight and cares about them because he says he does while all his actions screw them over.

[–] Willy 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

basically no.

https://medium.com/politically-speaking/the-biggest-cities-that-trump-won-63d01a0825f1

  • Wichita
  • Oklahoma city
  • Colorado springs
  • Bakersfield
  • Mesa

that's all I could get from in front of the paywall.

so not places you would think about as cities or readily be able to place on a map.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

As much as I want to see this horrible man brought to justice there's no way I'd want to sit on one of those juries with all of his unhinged supporters out there.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

If do it if I lived there... and if I didn't have a digital anti-Trump data trail a light year across. I can be "impartial" for the right cause.