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Hi all, thanks so much for your input on this post in regards to de-federation. I have read through every comment and have taken all perspectives on board. I think I have come up with my stance on the matter for the moment.

For now I wont be de-federating with any other instances or servers. I feel it is important as many people have mentioned to "leave the power to the users" and let them decide the content they wish to see. In regards to this I think it will be extremely important to educate people on how to block communities that they do not wish to see. If you all could assist me with that and help guide new users that would be much appreciated. I will be creating a post on this soon and will put a note in the sidebar about it.

I also am aware and agree that certain content has no place in peoples feeds and that they want nothing to do with it. I myself am one of those people. Therefore there are a few things that I will still strongly be pushing for.

Site admins are currently discussing what moderation tools that we think we need. And this is what I propose and hope to implement into VLemmy.

A mod/admin tool that allows me to block certain communities/servers from appearing in all/new/hot feeds while they will still show for users that are subscribed. This stops the unwanted propagation of harmful/unwanted content while not restricting access to it and allowing users to interact if they wish.

A user tool that will show the users what communities the admin/mod has hidden from showing up in the new/all/hot feeds and allow them to uncheck it for themselves if they wish.

I feel like this is a reasonable compromise and I hope that this will help give a balanced experience for all. Critiques, criticism, refinements, suggestions, questions, all are welcome in the comments and are much appreciated.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Love the decision and the ideas. Especially the interface to opt out of hidden content in the feeds ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿป

Keep up the good work

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Great job! Let's grow out of the reddit over moderation mindset. This is a different ecosystem anyway

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That is an excellent path forward. I completely agree with both the ideas to educate how to block communities from showing up in feeds as well as blocking instances from showing up in All/New/Hot without defederating. Nice adminning!

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately, I think this is another case of Lemmy suffering from the underdevelopment of its mod tools. The feature you described is called server limiting, and would be greatly helpful to have. However, in its absence I respect the compromise we've come to.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Iโ€™m a new user here on vlemmy and just wanted to say that I love this thought process and thank you very much for the wonderful instance!

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have nothing to say beside good luck.

For NSFW content, it might be inappropriate to show in anyone feeds if not requested, even more since there is not switch to display or not NSFW content on my jerboa app.

Filtering them for not appearing in my stream if i didn't want to seems good.

Thanks.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Show NSFW is account level flag. Go to your profile settings and uncheck it. And yes, it's possible via Jerboa.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Also. There is stil NSFW content that i don't want to see to know that i want to block them. For instance child porn or animal abuse and so on.

My opinion is that the instance should ban content that do not conform to the regulation there is in the country where the instance is.

If people are not satisfied they can join other instances that allow that kind of content.

I'm ok to free speech but some regulation is needed. It will also protect those community that can be harassed by people that didn't want to see that kind of content.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is probably fine but I still worry that it gives too much control to the "admins" on what I can or can't discover...

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well, the great thing about the fediverse is that you can go register your user name on 10 different instances if you wish. If admins in one place are fucking up, you can just log in to different instance and not have to deal with it.