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I'm not trying to convince anyone to go back i promise, quite the contrary actually cause I think spez plans to just decrease the cost of the API and act like it was a bargain deal sacrifice while not solving any of the issues at all

But, when I think about it even if spez did actually listen and reverse all changes I don't think i want to go back to Reddit cause from what Ive seen Lemmy is just friendlier and less :Be Corporate Friendly: I would honestly love it if Lemmy did a project like r/place one of these days so we could see what the internet is actually like instead of what happened in 2022 (I really did enjoy what a bunch of communities did but when the mods started abusing their powers to make it corporate r/place lost so much meaning) but i am curious since i'm not going back is there anything Reddit can do to make you go back to Reddit?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure if anything could at this point. The large amount of users has resulted in a lot lower quality of posts.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, I've been wanting to find a new forum for a while. Reddit no longer resembles what I joined back in the days.

This was just the kick in booty I needed to get on with it. And a ton of alternatives has been laid out before me, so might as well go check some of them out.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

If they made their mobile web interface usable, I'd use it on mobile. If they keep their old.reddit interface usable, I'll keep using it to some extent. I don't think either of these will happen.

I also think the vast majority won't care unless the moderation bots will be rendered unaffordable to maintain by volunteer mods.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I am running PowerDeleteSuite on both my reddit accounts as i type this. My basic edit is that due to reddits api changes i no longer feel welcome, have moved to lemmy, and support the blackout. I will give a few hours to settle and then delete both accounts

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Saying this as a current Reddit user so this is less of a "winning me back" list and more of a wishlist. Either way...

-Reverse API decisions, support 3rd party apps
-Make new design less shit
-Decentralizing. Not through blockchains or NFT trinkets but through open sourcing and federating with a network like this one. This was Jack Dorsey's plan for Twitter and this is why he funded the development of Bluesky. The plan was to eventually develop Twitter into a client for Bluesky, but he had to fuck everything up by pushing for Elon to buy it, which is a shame because this would have been the best ending for the platform. Reddit doing the same would be the best ending for it as well, but like I said, this is just a wishlist. Modern Reddit would never support something like this.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I would like to see spez step down as CEO and have a formal apology to the 3rd party devs affected by the API pricing change, especially to Christian over the repeated attempts to slander his reputation and outright lie about him and his app (Apollo). I would like them to make the price more reasonable if they wish to continue charging for the API. I would also want them to make the grace period a lot longer (12+ months) to give 3rd party apps a chance to adjust. I also want them to not pursue going public. From what I saw, devs had no issues paying. But the pricing is just to price out 3rd-party apps from existing.

That being said, I think there is no way in hell any of this happens. It would take a literal miracle for any of these things to happen. And I just have a hard time seeing them doing the right thing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nothing. Literally, they just need to change nothing, to do... nothing. It is their actions that are driving people away. Today as of this moment, reddit is working the same as it's done for the past several years.

Then again, I'm defintely enjoying my time here on Lemmy much more than I was at this point on reddit. This feels more like the early days of reddit, where you have more meaningful engagements. You don't show up to a thread only to find 1,000+ comments, and likely one toward the top saying the exact same words you intended to say.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

There isn’t anything realistic they can do. At this point the damage has been done over the past 5 years or so and the API thing was kind of just the last straw for me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For a platform based so heavily around user content, they really seem to hate their users. Even if they went back on the API pricing plan, Reddit is just testing the waters for what changes they can get away with to become more profitable and corporate-friendly, and this is something I feel like they’re gonna continue to do.

Only thing they can do to bring me back is more transparency in what they’re doing, but that’s not gonna happen lol.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Allow rif or allow more customization for listview in app. I'm gonna stick around but only on desktop probably. That will be significantly less than my mobile usage.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

It's too late, this is just the culmination of something that started a long time ago.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Don’t think I’ll ever go back, no matter what they do going forward. The team at Reddit (or at least a good chunk of the “top dogs”) have shown time and time again that they cannot be trusted. They are slowly boiling the frog, and if they notice they’ve turned the temperature too high, they’ll lower it, and then try to increase it again, just more slowly than last time. They have been doing this for years, but this was a step too far for me

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

open the source code and become part of the fediverse. reddit is stuck in the past

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Nice try, /u/spez…!

But seriously, I guess none of any further actions to try to fix the whole thing would change that bad gut feeling of being held as a fool that I now have. Mostly due to how they treated Christian Selig.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I haven't been a redditor for as long as you guys have, being a teenager and all, but you can see the deterioration. It's strange, losing reddit. Feels like losing a friend but different. But they took the enshittification route, and I'm never going back.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll always have some positive feelings for Reddit because I met my husband there, but the whole mentality here is so refreshing. I realize I mainly lurked on Reddit cause you'd get torn apart on subs for being new or not knowing the lingo or making a mistake cause you didn't frequent it every day. Don't think I'm gonna back pedal from the fresh start.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I think it is very healthy for huge social media platforms to disappear every now and then and be replaced by better things. After being on Reddit for 13 years I'm excited for something new; hopefully different in good ways. I think a federated approach is a huge improvement. I don't think there's anything they could do.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Nothing. I deleted my account already. It was a spit in the face of the third party developers. The official Reddit app is trash. They were lucky to have those third party apps. Cash grab because of the incoming recession. Meanwhile you're whole platform is based on user generated content. What a joke.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is literally nothing.... I just used Reddit for r/nosleep. I'll live without it. It's permanently erased any goodwill it had with me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I hadn't seen r/nosleep for so long last I remember it was on the stalker trend that terrified me, ugh stalking and home invaders are by far the scariest things for me

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mostly left when they killed the compact UI. Only using it on my laptop from time to time.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Either free access to the API for mobile app developers or allow mobile app developers to run adds to pay for API access at a price corresponding to the actual costs involved with providing the API access...

And fix the linking "bug" they created 5 years ago to try to force old.reddit site users to migrate to the new shitty reddit site by breaking links on old.reddit.

But neither of those will happen... and I'm actually happy about that. I've been growing more and more dissatisfied with Reddit for years, and if they decide to wreck it they can wreck it. I will miss what it used to be, but I won't miss what it has become.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

All they need to do is make RIF not shut down. Whatever that takes. I'm not using their shitty app.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I've been wanting a return to a distributed social web for over a decade now. Now that it looks truly viable, why would I want to go back?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Apologise to Christian for the slander. And that’s just to start.
No point listing the other requirements since the first one will not be met anyway. The most we will get it “I’m sorry Christian felt that way”.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Aside from becoming federated? Nothing, its a lost battle for them, they can make the api free, they can undo all their fuckups, but theres no guarantee something like this will happen again in the future.

In comparison, worst case scenario for lemmy/kbin right now is i switch my instance in the instance that the owner makes poor decisions, as opposed to abandoning the platform entirely.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

If Reddit announced sustainable pricing for the APIs, backpedaled on the NSFW limitations and gave a timeline to make the official app accessible for the visually impaired and apologized to all the people who have been defamed I could consider going back.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem with (so called) Reddit protest is their decision won't change. All subreddits should protest UNTIL demands are met. Locking the subreddits on 48h won't do them any harm, but locking for an extended period of time might.

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