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[-] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago

I never thought I would see Israel commit its own holocaust, but here we are.

[-] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago

It has been going on for years. Israel murders as many Palestinians as they think they can get away with.

[-] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago

I never thought America and Europe and especially Germany would support it so quickly after their "regret" of the first one. But here we are.

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I am interested to see what kind of about-face all the politicians of the world will do when this is over. Will there be strong condemnations and a new "we are the world" song? Will there be crocodile tears and strong cries of "we didn't know it was this bad"? Will everyone just start pretending the genocide didn't happen?

Like, they've made it crystal that they're gonna kill all of em. They won't stop, that at least is clear. So I'm asking like, how much more nothing will nations do? Will everyone keep tiptoeing around the USs pet nation? Will "genocide denier" come to mean something new?

[-] azertyfun 4 points 3 months ago

Don't worry, none of the people who enabled the Holocaust faced meaningful consequences for their actions, and vanishingly few of those who were active participants were condemned for anything. In the years following 1945 all collaboration with the Nazi regime was essentially pardoned for the sake of "social harmony" or whatever it was called in German. In France De Gaulle similarly said "all of France was Résistante" and commuted Pétain's death sentence, essentially wiping clean the slate of Nazi collaborators.

In fact it's vanishingly unlikely that you haven't consumed, this week, several products made by companies that directly benefited from slave labor during WWII and that arguably wouldn't exist today if they had been forced to face consequences for their crimes against humanity.

Guilt and shame are concepts only us peasants are subject to. Politicians and industrialists only deal - at most - in PR, and their response will be entirely dependent on what they calculate they can get away with.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Well, it turns out all unwavering support for a nation because of the etnicity of the people who live there (i.e. "The Jewish Nation") is still racism and entirelly anchored in the very same racist way of thinking as was historical in the nations providing said support (it's quite interesting how the nations which are the biggest supporters of Israel pretty much all have histories of extreme racism and genocide against other etnicities).

That whole "support for The Jewish Nation" thing could be passed as "positive" discrimination (as if the positive for some doesn't have a complementary negative "denial of equal treatment for those not of the right etnicities") up until the point the self-apointed representatives of the etnicity those nations discriminate in favour of, went full-on Nazi and started massacring people on etnic lines all accompanied with the same kind of wording and propaganda that Goebbels used.

That the nations doing that "positive discrimination" didn't stop it when their support suddenly became the means for very overt, very cold anti-Palestinian and even anti-Muslim racist extreme violence, and in fact even doubled-down on Nazi-style propaganda against their own populations to defend it, for me shows how deep down at least the elites those nations never stopped being profoundly racist.

Looking at it from that point of view, the explanation for, for example, Germany's behaviour is actually quite simple: their elites never stopped being racist and even seeing mass murder along etnic lines as acceptable, they just changed the etnic groups they favour and disfavour and became better at hidding their prejudices, at least when it came to etnicities which was not politically correct to discriminate against - if their relation towards other human beings still follows the very same mental framework as almost a century ago (only with different ubermenschen and untermenschen) their continued support of Israel, even when they go on a full-on Nazi-style genocide, is entirelly natural.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Couldn't agree more. The mask has come off to reveal the quite unashamedly colonial white supremacy of the West.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's not a German problem or a Jewish problem. It never was. It's a human problem. A century from now this whole thing will be used as an aesop about that. A state founded to protect against genocide committing one before all the survivors have even passed.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Israel was founded on Settler Colonialism and ethnic cleansing, both fundamental to Zionism

The Concept of Transfer 1882-1948

Transfer Committee and the JNF led to Forced Displacement of 100,000 Palestinians throughout the mandate.

Plan Dalet

Details of Plan C (May 1946) and Plan D (March 1948)

[-] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago

israel is using famine to kill all Palestinians in Gaza.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago

Now do something about it....

[-] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago

Apartheid Israel is single-handedly increasing antisemitism. They have now killed more people than in the Bosnian Genocide.

When's the world going to sanction them like Russia has been? Hypocrisy of the global north at its best.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

NOT single-handedly! The IDF couldn't do shit with the evangelicals and trad caths of America propping their apartheid government up. It's important to remember that western, mostly-christian countries created the environment for this genocide. AND the same people have spent decades equating the state of Israel with all Jews.

In other words, antisemitism is as European as Zionism.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The "human animals" were already born inside the concentration camp and starving them to death is a cheaper "Final Solution to the Palestinian problem" than using Zyklon B.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago
[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Disgusting piece of shits, worthless of the air their breath. No matter the nationality, gender, age, skin color, language, life experience, nor any other distinction, maybe barring mental illnesses that can cause such an evil ridicule for human life, can be an understandable reason for such cruelty. Baby killers by obstruction of aid on their way to grow up and continue to be baby killers by guns.

Hope they, along with the other Zionist piece of shits, experience horrific deaths befitting their behaviour.

[-] mindbleach 13 points 3 months ago

Not exactly mysterious, is it? There's aid trucks. They can't get in. And when they do, Israel shoots people getting aid.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'm pretty curious what the exact excuses they use are. Like, do they just roll out a truck for "inspection" and never bring it back, or something?

[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

'backed by mountains of bodies'

is what I read initially...

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Fuck Israel.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Unlike other issues related to Israel’s conduct in its war against Hamas in Gaza, which has claimed more than 30,000 lives and displaced more than 85% of the population amid widespread destruction, the human-made famine occurring in the Palestinian territory appears more straightforward.

While the question of civilian casualties from specific attacks and from the wider policy of bombing will need to be tested against highly contested notions in international humanitarian law such as proportionality and necessity in conflict, the war crime of starvation is simply and clearly defined.

Though Israel denies the allegation, the Rome statute of the international criminal court defines it as the crime of intentionally starving civilians by “depriving them of objects indispensable to their survival” including “wilfully impeding relief supplies”.

Highly technical, often cautious and designed to be neutral in its analysis, the committee – which had already warned of the risk of famine not least in the worst affected region of northern Gaza – has relied on World Food Programme surveys that concludedPalestinians were already facing IPC phase 4 and 5 levels of malnutrition – “emergency” and “catastrophe”.

Exacerbating Israel’s legal exposure over the issue of starvation are public comments made early in the war by the defence minister, Yoav Gallant, advocating a “complete siege of Gaza” and making clear that he meant: “No electricity, no food, no water.”

While Israel has allowed a minimum of aid to enter under pressure from the US and wider international community, it has faced repeated complaints, including from Joe Biden, that the quality is insufficient, prompting air drops and attempts to open a sea bridge by other countries.


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