That's good, however it's again just symbolism. A real signal would be to begin cutting ties with China on a path to end our economical dependency on them.
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Rich people never do anything financially adverse so virtue signaling is the only thing that works for them.
In theory yes, in practice we should then also cut ties with every other nation that committed a massacre or oppressed its population, which… checks notes… would be almost every nation.
Why not Turkey for the Armenian Genocide, why not Australia for the treatment of aboriginal people, why not the USA and Canada for the treatment of indigenous people? Why not Great Britain for conquering half of the planet and enslaving people?
There's a bit of a difference between the likes of Britain, France, the Netherlands, Portugal, etc, who committed atrocities primarily in the days of colonialsm and have since drastically changed — they've acknowledged what they've done, and to my knowledge apologised for it — and China.
China hasn't become less authoritarian since the massacre, doesn't acknowledge it even happened, and certainly hasn't apologised. The sad truth is, they'd likely do it all over again. Because they're just as bad now as they were then.
I hate the "but whatabout..." whenever someone calls out China on murdering their civilians and even committing an ongoing genocide.
If you actually think China and nations such as Britain, Canada, France, Spain, Germany, etc are the same, you frankly need to get your head examined.
Nobody is saying you have to be perfect. Obviously every past society has flaws and pockmarks. The point is acknowledging past wrongs and seeking reconciliation and seeking to improve.
Denying atrocities makes atrocities worse, because it means you will repeat the errors.
why not cut ties because of the people in power? people in power today are not the ones that made these crimes, ~~except china~~ i'm stupid
And also excepting Israel, Kongo, Russia, UAE, Myanmar, Saudi Arabia, South Sudan and still the USA.
And on a side note Xi Jinping, the man in power today, didn’t do the TS massacre, he came to power in 2012
So he should have no problem acknowledging the issue and seeking reconciliation.
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Oh man, the tankies are out in force today, aren’t they?
LoL.. I have a relatively limited Blocklist of tankies and therefore do not see any of their drivel anymore. Seriously, just block the names you recognize.. at 20 your Lemmy experience will be much more sane.
I tend to block anyone with an @hexbear on sight even if they're making an innocuous comment. It's takes a certain type of person to choose that instance. I'm at like 30 blocks including their instance and yea my feed is solid.
it takes a certain kind of person
I don't think many of them are people, they're LLMs. Those that are actually people didn't choose Hexbear, their bosses who pay them to be shills chose it.
Similar problems at lemmy.ml but not as bad.
Same. Lemmygrad is also on my shitlist.
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Sorry for my ignorance, but what are 'tankies'?
Far-left authoritarians. In this case, CCP supporters/apologists
From Wikipedia:
The term "tankie" was originally used by dissident Marxist–Leninists to describe members of the Communist Party of Great Britain (CPGB) who followed the party line of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU). Specifically, it was used to distinguish party members who spoke out in defense of the Soviet use of tanks to crush the Hungarian Revolution of 1956 and the 1968 Prague Spring uprising, or who more broadly adhered to pro-Soviet positions
Authoritarians who typically take an anti-western stance and champion Russia and China.
If China didn't censor everything to do with something that totally didn't happen I'm sure they'd be very upset.
What about banning imports from any company that is using forced labour?
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That statue could only be better if Winnie Pooh was sitting on top of it
Virtue signaling from Europe while still supporting israel's Genocide and even inviting them to Eurovision.
Shamelessness knows no bounds.
There can be multiple different people and multiple different motivations within people that do not all need to agree with each other. One person/thought can be good, while others aren't.
That discrepancy alone doesn't discredit the good things, unless they're directly related. In this case, they aren't. Israel's genocide needs to be condemned, but so need to be the events from Tiananmen square.
I hate arguments like yours. It's always like, "you either be perfect or you're the worst scum on Earth". Completely counterproductive. Yes, criticize the bad parts. But don't paint the good things, like this, as bad, it's just unnecessary.
Especially, an art installation at one place has absolutely nothing to do with who decides who goes to a stupid song contest. Wtf.
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Can we get one for Russia in 1993 during the black october too? Or is that different when tanks roll on people and bombard a building?
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Taiwan is not a country. Where are my social credits!?
Return your credit and visit my country. We will show what the true Chinese culture is. Since the CCP deleted all that after the civil war.
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