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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We aren't special. Conciousness is a side effect of having so many neurons shaped by millions of years of social and environmental darwinism. We are actually barely concious to avoid confronting the fact that we are just walking meat.

If human head transplants were done, we would have proof that the soul is just a sophisticated algorithm held within our meat, but even then, our barely concious state will refuse to compute the actual implications.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Further our "singular conscious" is an illusion. People with various types of physical brain damage have had their awareness "split" and had something akin to two different consciouses in their brain. Even for "normal" people there are independent processes running in our brain. Our consciousness is in charge sort of the way the teacher is in charge of the nursey school. It might decide when recess is but it can't stop that one kid from just singing for no reason.

Also to your point I think that if we could transplant a head we'd find that our sentience involves more than the brain. I think we underestimate how connected all of our systems are.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I have a saying, if the people no longer respect the government rules, shall the state end up in anarchy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There's no such thing as free will

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure that it matters

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've always thought that what makes me the most happy is trying not to care about material things. Just stuff I make myself is what I care about most. I made my own music player app and it's garbage compared to everything else available but I still love it. I feel like this is a pretty popular opinion to hold though.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

“Consciousness” is not a multitude instances of which you have one of, it’s something singular that has you.

We are all the same weird mirror rippling through space-time trying to figure out how to outfox entropy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"Free will", as almost anyone defines it, is completely indistinguishable from no free will.

Also: The universe exists as a manifestation of pure math. In the same sense that the answer to "What is 9827349328659327498327592432^98374239563298473298324253?" exists even if nobody bothers to actually calculate it, the answer to "What does a universe with [these] parameters look like at t = 13.7 billion years look like?" exists as well - and it looks like you. A lot of people agree that it might be in principle possible to simulate the universe - even if it requires something silly like a computer larger than the universe. I just take it a step further and say that if a simulation is possible, even only in principle, then actually carrying out the simulation isn't a necessary step.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just take it a step further and say that if a simulation is possible, even only in principle, then actually carrying out the simulation isn't a necessary step.

My hunch (and this is just a hunch) is that in some cases this might be true but not in the general case. The universe contains turning machines. So one cannot arbitrarily determine a future state without also disproving the Halting Problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure if you quoted the right portion of my message - but I don't think the halting problem plays any part in this scenario. It's perfectly possible to simulate a computer running a program with an unknown halting state - there's no real need to know if or when a nested program will halt to simulate it anyways. The arbitrary future state you want to determine may just have it in a non-halted state. The simulation itself is likely non-halting.

I want to clarify that I say "simulation", but I don't mean it in the sense it's usually used at all - I think our universe is as real as real gets. I think of it like this xkcd. If you accept that the universe can in principle be simulated (Such that you, as an inhabitant of the universe, would notice no difference), then why not accept that it can be so simulated with rocks? And if you can accept that your entire existence and subjective experience is determined by rock placement in a desert - then why require the rocks at all? To me, the fact that the universe is mathematically consistent is then enough for it to exist - at least as far as it and its inhabitants are concerned.

I will admit that non-determinism from quantum randomness makes this all a bit hairier / fuzzier, but I don't think it invalidates the whole thing at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Treat others how you would like to be treated. Adress others the way you want to be adressed.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Optimistic Nihilism.

Consciousness is an accident, the universe is an emergent property of physical laws, and there is no purpose to any of it; no gods, no guiding intention, no natural morality, no afterlife. Just entropy.

This is a good, positive thing to understand.

If there is no intrinsic morality, then we are free to define morality for ourselves. This is a burden, but it something that we can recognise and think critically about, rather than just taking whatever tradition we were raised in, and picking and choosing as is convenient.

If there is no afterlife, then every act of alturism, every kind thing we do we can do because we want to. Not because we are afraid of damnation, but because we decided that it was the right thing to do.

If we leave nothing behind but dust, then we must be aware of the impact we have now, because our time is limited and brief.

If we are a random collection of atoms, a brief coherent pattern among the chaos, then we can recognise that every single other person is the fundamentally the same.

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