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Citizenship for someone born and raised here by foreign parents (leddit.danmark.party)

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Hejsa,

I was hoping to get some advice and information on the process of acquiring citizenship for a Dane born to foreign parents. My wife was born in Denmark to foreign parents (UK, hence she has British citizenship), grew up here, and is now studying here. She is finally looking at getting her citizenship, however it seems as though her only option is via naturalisation, which seems to indicate that as a student and not a worker, she does not qualify. Is this correct? Is her only option to wait until she graduates, find a job, work another 3.5 years, then apply?

I understand that none of you may be immigration lawyers or experts, however any information at all would be greatly appreciated.

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The original was posted on /r/denmark by /u/WhileHammersFell at 2024-03-13 17:27:10+00:00.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Itsamesolairo at 2024-03-13 19:59:58+00:00 ID: kuq73lf

Is her only option to wait until she graduates, find a job, work another 3.5 years, then apply?

There are other options, but they're age/medical-dependent. If she's under 22 (which I assume she isn't unless you married super young) or is disabled, she can apply for a dispensation from the employment requirements.

Frankly, however, her parents have been royal fucking idiots and really let shit roll downhill on her if neither of them acquired citizenship before she turned 18.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

TinnaAres at 2024-03-13 20:43:15+00:00 ID: kuqf2dm

The under 22 is for children born to Danish parents but outside of the country. She is born in Denmark to foreign parents so it would not apply in this case either way 😅

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Itsamesolairo at 2024-03-13 21:30:36+00:00 ID: kuqnp5v

You are incorrect. There is also a rule that kicks in at age 22 for foreign-born children of Danish parents, but the rule I am talking about is the Employment Requirement waiver:

If you are under 22 years of age and have entered Denmark before the age of 8, you can also apply for a dispensation. You can attach a motivated application for dispensation and possibly documentation that supports your application. Documentation can for instance be training documents, employment contracts from full-time, part-time employment, documentation of voluntary work in the form of statements, or the likes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

TinnaAres at 2024-03-13 22:16:00+00:00 ID: kuqvqrq

Sorry yeah, I thought you were referring to the mentioned scheme, and not to a rule within the work requirements directly :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

WhileHammersFell (OP) at 2024-03-13 21:00:30+00:00 ID: kuqi8v0

Frankly, however, her parents have been royal fucking idiots and really let shit roll downhill on her

Tell me about it... Their excuse was "She's an EU citizen, so it doesn't matter". Until Brexit happened. Now it really fuckin' matters.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Marty-the-monkey at 2024-03-13 17:36:24+00:00 ID: kupgrix

With my experience as someone with a US wife and myself being a danish citizen, it sounds about right when you say

Is her only option to wait until she graduates, find a job, work another 3.5 years, then apply?

Danish immigration is horrendously strict and frankly stupendously complicated.

What I would suggest is to check out the 'nyidamark' website (the Danish immigration website). You can also try and call them; It's a bit of a gamble whether you get a nice or not person to help you, but they would be able to tell you more specifically.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

WhileHammersFell (OP) at 2024-03-13 17:48:26+00:00 ID: kupizes

Thank you. I'll give them a call for confirmation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

TinnaAres at 2024-03-13 20:40:24+00:00 ID: kuqejvu

it is not SIRI for citizenship but Udlændingestyrelsen

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Grievuuz at 2024-03-14 03:16:51+00:00 ID: kus810l

I grew up and went to school with a girl from Thailand when I was a kid. I was talking to my mom a few weeks ago about old stuff and ended up googling her, just to find out that she has only JUST gotten naturalized. I haven't talked to her, but the hoops have to have been stupid.

Edit; I'm 35 btw

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nervous-Ant-Boss at 2024-03-13 20:22:31+00:00 ID: kuqb93i

Danish citizenship requires naturalisation or being born/adopted by a Dane as a child. Being born and raised in Denmark does not make her a Dane legally, it makes her a second generation immigrant. Hopefully on a legal residence, a criminal record will be bad for getting citizenship.

Unless marrying into the royal family is an option she'll have to do the naturalisation process as everyone else. Among other things she'll need fluency in Danish in a level, where she is able to google "dansk statsborgerskab" and read the Danish webpage about it. https://uim.dk/statsborgerskab/udenlandske-statsborgere/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

WhileHammersFell (OP) at 2024-03-13 21:14:17+00:00 ID: kuqkqc0

She has both legal residence and speaks Danish as her mother tongue, so no issues there; she was born here and spent her whole life here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

TheoryEnvironmental6 at 2024-03-14 05:58:33+00:00 ID: kusqm7r

She needs the following:

permanent residence for at least 2 years after she acquired it
to work full time 3 and a half years out of the last 4. I repeat: if she doesn’t have a full time job for more than 6 months, this “timer” resets
no criminal record
pass the danish language exam
pass the danish citizenship exam
she needs to look at travel abroad(you are obliged to declare some of the travels if they surpass a number of days, a number of trips per year etc.)
if she has fines by the police(she needs to declare all of them. For example: fine for crossing a red light on a bike). Be aware that if the amount exceeds 3000dkk(please check the amount as this is what I recall) she would be quarantined for a couple of years

I guess that’s about it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

WhileHammersFell (OP) at 2024-03-14 08:29:34+00:00 ID: kut33wv

She spent about a year and a half living in Australia (My home country) with me from 2019 to 2020. Do you think that would be long enough to have an impact?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

TheoryEnvironmental6 at 2024-03-14 08:58:42+00:00 ID: kut5dcy

It is really difficult to say, but it could be seen as a bit of a red flag that she does not want Denmark enough…

What I recommend is that instead of having 9 years in Denmark that she should apply when she has a bit more than 10 years instead. I see it as 2 ways: either they substrate the one year and a half and they can say that she does not fulfill the 9 years continuously requirement in Denmark. Hence, they can substrate this from the 10 years and a half then she is still able to fulfill it.

Or they just say that she is not integrated enough… unfortunately,there are several cases

I hope this makes sense!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

TheoryEnvironmental6 at 2024-03-14 06:10:02+00:00 ID: kusrnf1

Another major thing : be aware that the government may change the requirements even though she applied. They use something called retroactive. This happened to me after I had my application for more than a year in progress.

Luckily I was fulfilling the new requirements too so I did not get affected :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

WhileHammersFell (OP) at 2024-03-14 08:30:04+00:00 ID: kut35cz

As in, the requirements may become even stricter, and she'd get denied on the basis of not meeting the new requirements? That's so messed up...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

TheoryEnvironmental6 at 2024-03-14 08:55:07+00:00 ID: kut538y

They have been doing this several times. So I won’t be surprised if they do it again..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

WhileHammersFell (OP) at 2024-03-14 09:20:54+00:00 ID: kut752s

I was doing a bit of reading and saw a few proposals from recent years to make it easier to get citizenship for people born here, or to count education as employment - But the proposals keep getting shot down. I'm hoping that means progress is on the horizon, but it sounds like it's still considered a radical idea...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

TheoryEnvironmental6 at 2024-03-14 09:24:48+00:00 ID: kut7ghx

It is a bit easier for people who are born here. But only if they apply before they turn 22 :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

WhileHammersFell (OP) at 2024-03-14 09:38:08+00:00 ID: kut8ju2

Unfortunately that ship has sailed. The way it stands at the moment, it sounds like our only option is the long way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

TheoryEnvironmental6 at 2024-03-14 09:41:55+00:00 ID: kut8v3l

Sorry to hear ! If you need any help feel free to PM.

I won’t know everything but we can figure it out together